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    Quote Originally Posted by Rethel View Post
    For example what?
    There are plenty of groups which determine membership matrilineally, from the Jew to the Cherokee to the Tibetan.

    Said a jewish Hamite, who everyday pretends to be english himself...
    Thank you for proving my point.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Petalpusher View Post
    It's probably cultural as they split and evolved differently at some point. Im just wondering what are the odds you find some R1a before, some afterwards and none in that one specific culture at the time we sample them, at least yet.
    I want to know what happened to the C carriers.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Petalpusher View Post
    Now the interesting story to come will be to explain how Yamnaya appeared to have segregated all the R1a from them, like they had some Full ftdna Y test back then. Bit mind blowing.
    They were just small in number during EHG period, but later, when they grew, they dominated CWC.
    It is even logical, why they did not create a mishmash: because they have patriarchal system, what
    means, that majority of subgroups did live separetely by the houses of their fathers. So, later bigger
    groups were also separated. In the film which I putted, it is said, that all Yamnaya people were very
    close related, and the migrations from BBC to Afanasievo had ancestors just 5-7 generations back.
    So, it is not strage, that Yamna didn;t have too much R1a, becasue they were from different lineage.
    But there also is one example of Yamnayan R1a - obviously some cousin, who coincidently died, when
    he did visit his relatives, and was buried on their yard.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Longbowman View Post
    I want to know what happened to the C carriers.
    Just another R1b genocide before we even came to be. Ancient PIE scouts.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Longbowman View Post
    There are plenty of groups which determine membership matrilineally, from the Jew to the Cherokee to the Tibetan.
    Firstly, Jews are NOT matrylinear.
    Secondly, do your kindergarten homework with the link, which I did recommend you.
    Thirdly - where, and when I said anything against Cherokee or Tibetan, as they never
    were a subject of disscussion, neither noone ever insist to disscuss this problem?

    You are insane. You are making up stuff, to justify your fury, which you show every time, when you see a word paternal or patrilinear.
    The fact that you hate your own father, really is not a reason, to impute to everyone, that 99% of people live wrongly, or that whole
    history, religions, tradition, customs or just human instincts are wrong. Thou are not the measurement of everything. Wake up.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Rethel View Post
    Firstly, Jews are NOT matrylinear.
    Firstly, yes they are, cope, secondly it's not relevant whether or not one group is or isn't.

    Secondly, do your kindergarten homework with the link, which I did recommend you.
    Thirdly - where, and when I said anything against Cherokee or Tibetan, as they never
    were a subject of disscussion, neither noone ever insist to disscuss this problem?
    As I explained to you, the Rabbi doesn't support you, as saying 'once upon a time, Jews were probably patrilineal' is very far from agreeing with your entire worldview. Once upon a time many groups which are now patrilineal were matrilineal, for example a huge amount of groups in Central Africa. I doubt you would advocate for them to return to tradition.

    Besides, his opinion is only his opinion.

    You are insane. You are making up stuff, to justify your fury, which you show every time, when you see a word paternal or patrilinear.
    The fact that you hate your own father,


    I love my father. You just hate your mother, all women, and Jews in particular.

    really is not a reason, to impute to everyone, that 99% of people live wrongly, or that whole
    history, religions, tradition, customs or just human instincts are wrong.
    >implying that 99% of people believe what you believe

    45% of Poles aren't R1a. Yet, they believe themselves to be Poles. Same for most if not all ethnicities (ie, a huge minority or even majority aren't from the dominant YDNA group). You pretending everyone agrees with you is fooling no one, not even yourself.

    Realistically not even 1% of people would agree with you. A few more % might have a vague concept of patrilineal patrimony but none of them would marry that up to YDNA and none of them would marry that up to your biblical literacy.

    Thou are not the measurement of everything. Wake up.
    Ironic.

    I am now putting you on my ignore list, as I find you annoying and cyclical in addition to seriously mentally unbalanced. Hopefully this does something tangible, but knowing this site, it won't do anything. I would wish you a good life and a good wife, but I don't think you should or will ever date, so I wish you a swift, merciful and painless death.
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    I agree. ADNA is more accurate.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Babak View Post
    I agree. ADNA is more accurate.
    How come you still don't know yours. Just order a goddamn FTDNA kit now, there is still a Christmas sale going on there.

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    yep.

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    Y-DNA is literally what codofies tje biology of your masculinity.
    While mitochondrias process sugars... Important too.

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