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    Is it possible to be assigned a haplogroup via a 23andme test for example, yet show no ethnicity estimates associated with where the haplogroup is associated with?


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    Quote Originally Posted by arkas View Post
    Is it possible to be assigned a haplogroup via a 23andme test for example, yet show no ethnicity estimates associated with where the haplogroup is associated with?
    Yes
    23andme: 100% Balkan https://www.theapricity.com/forum/sh...3andme-results

    MyOrigins 2.0: 100% Southeast Europe

    Geneplaza K25: 100% Greek-Albanian

    Eurogenes K36 oracle: 50.64% Albania_North+ 49.36% Kosovo. Population distance: 1) 1.27 Northern Albania&Kosovo

    Ydna: J1-ZS241

    Maternal Ydna: E-V13>CTS5856*


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    Quote Originally Posted by Longbowman View Post
    Only two of my great great grandparents though, and even then atDNA is a better tell of that story. atDNA is good for population-wide studies but, again, atDNA is usually better, with haplogroups providing supporting evidence.
    I totally agree with you.
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    [1] "1. CLOSEST SINGLE ITEM DISTANCE%"
        Scythian_MDA           Gagauz        Moldavian            Greek 
            3.485447         3.922165         4.231908         4.350534 
           Bulgarian Turkish_Istanbul         Albanian    Swiss_Italian 
            4.508945         4.661914         4.739656         5.099299

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    Haplotypes and haplogroups are relevant in that they can tell if extant populations had a common ancestor. Haplotypes used in studies of population genetics tell very little about the phenotype of present day human groups, because most have not been affected by environmental selection (or sexual selection, which could be a factor for some traits like eye color). As these haplogroups overlap between different populations, they are used by most geneticists and anthropologists in the West to support the claim that human races have no biological foundation. However, if I'm not mistaken many Russian and Chinese scholars still accept the concept of human races, and so generally do forensic anthropologists. Of course, as we all know, in the West ideology permeates the debate on race. This is what happens when a researcher steps out of the line:
    https://quillette.com/2018/12/07/aca...-be-denounced/

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