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    Quote Originally Posted by Silver Lining View Post
    Everything you say is wrong. Show me an anthropologist who used both Atlantid and North Atlantid. No one did. Well, Lundman had "Atlantid" as an umbrella term for Nordics, West-Alpines, etc. And SNPA is not real anthropology. "Atlantid" is a type found in North Western Europe, especially poor Celtic areas, nothing else. Spain is not Atlantid, e.g., it's Gracile Med and Eurafrikanid, mostly. You are mixing up terms like "Keltic Nordic" and "Atlantid" that have never co-existed in any taxonomy.

    Time to finish off this retarded online anthro. "Nordo-Mediterranid" LOL who has ever used that term except for Agrippa and his minions. Agrippa is a brown-eyed wog who wanted to nordify himself.
    Hooton used the term Nordic-Mediterranean. It's not an online creation. It correspond's to Deniker's Sub-Atlanto-Mediterranean also called North-Western. Coon later agreed with Hooton and Deniker and did away with the Bruenn/Borreby/Tronder system of 1939 and placed those types into the category of Northwestern.

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    Quote Originally Posted by nightrider+ View Post
    You are fighting a lost battle in a forum with an average iq of 80.
    Quote Originally Posted by Silver Lining View Post
    No author who has used "Atlanto-Med" has ever used Atlantid or North Atlantid. v.Eickstedt and Lundman didn't believe in Atlanto-Meds (correctly so). Stuff like "type x is halfway between type y" goes even against the basic idea of typology that is supposed to offer discrete and distinct types with unique traits. Intermediate types have no place in a true taxonomy and belong to populationist thinking. It's useless to have a term like "Atlantid" when you can just describe it by Nordic + Med. Nordic is distinct because you cannot describe it like "Med + East Baltic".
    Quote Originally Posted by Silver Lining View Post
    Everything you say is wrong. Show me an anthropologist who used both Atlantid and North Atlantid. No one did. Well, Lundman had "Atlantid" as an umbrella term for Nordics, West-Alpines, etc. And SNPA is not real anthropology. "Atlantid" is a type found in North Western Europe, especially poor Celtic areas, nothing else. Spain is not Atlantid, e.g., it's Gracile Med and Eurafrikanid, mostly. You are mixing up terms like "Keltic Nordic" and "Atlantid" that have never co-existed in any taxonomy.

    Time to finish off this retarded online anthro. "Nordo-Mediterranid" LOL who has ever used that term except for Agrippa and his minions. Agrippa is a brown-eyed wog who wanted to nordify himself.
    Quote Originally Posted by meiliren View Post
    You guys(South-Eastern Europeans and Balkaners) just have fetish for all these pretty words "Atlantid", "CM", "Cro-Magnon", "Faelid", "Dalo-Falid", "Borreby", "Atlanto-Mediterranean" etc.

    Actually you are mainly Alpines, Dinarics and Meds(not Atlanto-Mediterraneans) few Nordics and Baltics.

    Show me any person from the Balkans and I will classify him without "Atlantid", "CM", "Cro-Magnon", "Faelid" etc.
    Quote Originally Posted by Robocop View Post
    Atlantid is halfway between Atlanto-Mediterranid and North Atlantid. It's a somewhat lighter version of the Atlanto-Mediterranid (lighter skin complexion).

    What kind of genius one has to be not to grasp this or accept?
    Quote Originally Posted by The Blade View Post
    Lol, look what we've got here:
    - Robocop goes touchy. Well, dude, first of all, I didn't say Atlantids/Nordo-Med blends don't exist but that as long as they have both Nordic and Mediterranean features, it doesn't matter if they are brown or blue-eyed. They are basically the same mix. Question to you:
    If two brothers have the same skull type, similar features, both of them showing Nordic and Mediterranean traits, is eye colour still enough of a determinator for you to classify them as different types? For me it certainly isn't.
    And I'm not inventing anything out of my ass. Carleton Coon did have a set of blue-eyed people with Atlanto-Med morphology:
    https://www.theapricity.com/snpa/troeplate24.htm
    I didn't, however, say Atlantids don't exist. I only said you are narrowing the spectrum of how a supposed Atlantid can look like.
    I did say that North Atlantid as defined by SNPA is a highly subjective term I no longer use (and I have used rarely and nowadays sorry for actually having used it).
    I expressed my opinion based on actual data from authors here:
    https://www.theapricity.com/forum/sh...contemplations
    I have no problem with people who use it but don't make me do it, ok?
    Now, something else, because I see you expressing some supposed disappointment of me. Honestly speaking, I had more respect for you before making numerous threads of what The Apricity was before you and would have been without you. Also, your generalizations of ethnicities and phenotypes' traits and how Atlantids (who represent a later mix, after all) are superior than all others have gone too far for me. I'll tell you the same I said to SardiniaAtlantis some time ago. Both Mediterranean and Nordic people had their great achievements before any mass mixing between the two happened. Even later pure forms of both (especially Keltic Nordids) contributed strongly to humanity and civilizations. Why do you think that Atlantids are better than both of their Med and Nordic ancestors? Where is the proof for that boasting? How about recognizing many great successes in history done by people of Alpine or Dinaric type? How about stopping to attribute qualities to entire phenotypical groups (this last question I direct to Silver Lining, too)? Only shallow people do that in reality.
    The rest of the bullshit written here lately (especially by meiliren) I don't feel need to comment. They come from a guy who has several accounts already banned on this forum (meiliren) who liked posting people from one ethnicity and present them as another, one day quotes Coon as his GOD and the other denies many of his works simply because that doesn't suit him in an argument.
    And Silver Lining has too much trust in attributing mentality/behaviour qualities to entire phenotypical groups, as I already said. Kinda quite anti-med in his writing style but it's his right even though I often disagree with generalizations he makes. Brunn is an actual phenotype and not the result of alcoholism, like I already pointed out as opposed to his claim in a thread some time ago.
    Atlantid and North-Atlantid really never had any support outside of Lundman's own mind. Just like Faelid, which never had support outside of Gunther's mind.

    Atlantid and North-Atlantid describe the same exact thing, a dark haired Nordic (which has been given many different names depending on other admixture). They are redundant terms and often people classified as Atlantids can just be blue eyed Atlanto-Mediterraneans, which is an actual type agreed upon by many different researchers. Coon, Hooton, and Deniker never used Atlantid or North-Atlantid ever. It was always Sub-Atlanto-Mediterranean, AKA Northwestern, or Keltic type. The former being of Alpine admixture and the latter Dinaric admixture.

    Onto the Faelid type. Notice how fat "Broader boned" Nordics get classified as Borrebies, but when they are slimmer, they are Faelid?

    This online anthropology has to end. Is the guy fat and blond with a big skull and jaw? Yes, he's Borreby! Is the guy lean and blond with a big skull and jaw? Yes, He's Faelid.

    Faelid isn't a real type, never was, never has been.

    Lundman isn't a credible source, never was, never will be. Gunther isn't either.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Knight Slayer View Post
    Just like Faelid, which never had support outside of Gunther's mind.
    I respect your opinion and it's your choice whether to use the term or not but I must say one thing:
    - Just because people firstly associate this type with Günther doesn't make him its inventor.
    Dalofaelid was invented as a term by Fritz Paudler who first observed it in Dalarna, Sweden (1924).
    https://www.theapricity.com/snpa/rg-dalofalid.htm
    From there the terms dalsrasse/dalische Rasse and the dal part in Dalofaelid. The Faelid/Phalian part comes later from Günther who was not a pioneer of the type and thought of it as more common in Westphalia than in Dalarna - a very debatable claim of his.
    Type originated as a CM one, not a Nordic one:

    However, it's your choice what to find a legit source. I'm ok if you don't use the term (some of us do, others don't) but I had to clarify it isn't a creation of Günther's, nor used solely by him - I see many people making that mistake.
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    Quote Originally Posted by nightrider+ View Post
    You are fighting a lost battle in a forum with an average iq of 80.
    Quote Originally Posted by Silver Lining View Post
    No author who has used "Atlanto-Med" has ever used Atlantid or North Atlantid. v.Eickstedt and Lundman didn't believe in Atlanto-Meds (correctly so). Stuff like "type x is halfway between type y" goes even against the basic idea of typology that is supposed to offer discrete and distinct types with unique traits. Intermediate types have no place in a true taxonomy and belong to populationist thinking. It's useless to have a term like "Atlantid" when you can just describe it by Nordic + Med. Nordic is distinct because you cannot describe it like "Med + East Baltic".
    Quote Originally Posted by Silver Lining View Post
    Everything you say is wrong. Show me an anthropologist who used both Atlantid and North Atlantid. No one did. Well, Lundman had "Atlantid" as an umbrella term for Nordics, West-Alpines, etc. And SNPA is not real anthropology. "Atlantid" is a type found in North Western Europe, especially poor Celtic areas, nothing else. Spain is not Atlantid, e.g., it's Gracile Med and Eurafrikanid, mostly. You are mixing up terms like "Keltic Nordic" and "Atlantid" that have never co-existed in any taxonomy.

    Time to finish off this retarded online anthro. "Nordo-Mediterranid" LOL who has ever used that term except for Agrippa and his minions. Agrippa is a brown-eyed wog who wanted to nordify himself.
    Quote Originally Posted by meiliren View Post
    You guys(South-Eastern Europeans and Balkaners) just have fetish for all these pretty words "Atlantid", "CM", "Cro-Magnon", "Faelid", "Dalo-Falid", "Borreby", "Atlanto-Mediterranean" etc.

    Actually you are mainly Alpines, Dinarics and Meds(not Atlanto-Mediterraneans) few Nordics and Baltics.

    Show me any person from the Balkans and I will classify him without "Atlantid", "CM", "Cro-Magnon", "Faelid" etc.
    Quote Originally Posted by Robocop View Post
    Atlantid is halfway between Atlanto-Mediterranid and North Atlantid. It's a somewhat lighter version of the Atlanto-Mediterranid (lighter skin complexion).

    What kind of genius one has to be not to grasp this or accept?
    Quote Originally Posted by The Blade View Post
    Lol, look what we've got here:
    - Robocop goes touchy. Well, dude, first of all, I didn't say Atlantids/Nordo-Med blends don't exist but that as long as they have both Nordic and Mediterranean features, it doesn't matter if they are brown or blue-eyed. They are basically the same mix. Question to you:
    If two brothers have the same skull type, similar features, both of them showing Nordic and Mediterranean traits, is eye colour still enough of a determinator for you to classify them as different types? For me it certainly isn't.
    And I'm not inventing anything out of my ass. Carleton Coon did have a set of blue-eyed people with Atlanto-Med morphology:
    https://www.theapricity.com/snpa/troeplate24.htm
    I didn't, however, say Atlantids don't exist. I only said you are narrowing the spectrum of how a supposed Atlantid can look like.
    I did say that North Atlantid as defined by SNPA is a highly subjective term I no longer use (and I have used rarely and nowadays sorry for actually having used it).
    I expressed my opinion based on actual data from authors here:
    https://www.theapricity.com/forum/sh...contemplations
    I have no problem with people who use it but don't make me do it, ok?
    Now, something else, because I see you expressing some supposed disappointment of me. Honestly speaking, I had more respect for you before making numerous threads of what The Apricity was before you and would have been without you. Also, your generalizations of ethnicities and phenotypes' traits and how Atlantids (who represent a later mix, after all) are superior than all others have gone too far for me. I'll tell you the same I said to SardiniaAtlantis some time ago. Both Mediterranean and Nordic people had their great achievements before any mass mixing between the two happened. Even later pure forms of both (especially Keltic Nordids) contributed strongly to humanity and civilizations. Why do you think that Atlantids are better than both of their Med and Nordic ancestors? Where is the proof for that boasting? How about recognizing many great successes in history done by people of Alpine or Dinaric type? How about stopping to attribute qualities to entire phenotypical groups (this last question I direct to Silver Lining, too)? Only shallow people do that in reality.
    The rest of the bullshit written here lately (especially by meiliren) I don't feel need to comment. They come from a guy who has several accounts already banned on this forum (meiliren) who liked posting people from one ethnicity and present them as another, one day quotes Coon as his GOD and the other denies many of his works simply because that doesn't suit him in an argument.
    And Silver Lining has too much trust in attributing mentality/behaviour qualities to entire phenotypical groups, as I already said. Kinda quite anti-med in his writing style but it's his right even though I often disagree with generalizations he makes. Brunn is an actual phenotype and not the result of alcoholism, like I already pointed out as opposed to his claim in a thread some time ago.
    Quote Originally Posted by The Blade View Post
    I respect your opinion and it's your choice whether to use the term or not but I must say one thing:
    - Just because people firstly associate this type with Günther doesn't make him its inventor.
    Dalofaelid was invented as a term by Fritz Paudler who first observed it in Dalarna, Sweden (1924).
    https://www.theapricity.com/snpa/rg-dalofalid.htm
    From there the terms dalsrasse/dalische Rasse and the dal part in Dalofaelid. The Faelid/Phalian part comes later from Günther who was not a pioneer of the type and thought of it as more common in Westphalia than in Dalarna - a very debatable claim of his.
    Type originated as a CM one, not a Nordic one:

    However, it's your choice what to find a legit source. I'm ok if you don't use the term (some of us do, others don't) but I had to clarify it isn't a creation of Günther's, nor used solely by him - I see many people making that mistake.
    As always, thank you for the level headed response my friend.

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    Pointid not atlantid

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    I might be atlantid because all these examples are pretty bad tbh you guys are posting north Atlantid then atlantid

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    Here is prime Atlantid examples from France

    Atlantid are different they are too light for meds standard and also to exotic or different from nordics
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    8B678E5E-BF68-4BC4-9850-7C747FFE9007.jpeg

    Atlantid and north atlantids have the highest numbers of good looking people (especially on men), no I’m not gay LOL

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