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Thread: Ancient human genomes suggest three ancestral populations for present-day Europeans(Lazaridis 2013)

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    The top greatest and least 5 modern population hits for each of the ancestral components.

    European Early Farmer (EEF)

    Maltese 0.932
    Ashkenazi_Jew 0.931
    Sicilian 0.903
    Sardinian 0.817
    Spanish 0.809
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    Norwegian 0.411
    Icelandic 0.394
    Scottish 0.39
    Lithuanian 0.364
    Estonian 0.322
    Western Hunter-Gatherers (WHG)

    Estonian 0.495
    Lithuanian 0.464
    Icelandic 0.456
    Belorussian 0.431
    Norwegian 0.428
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    Spanish 0.068
    Greek 0.058
    Maltese 0
    Ashkenazi_Jew 0
    Sicilian 0
    Ancient North Eurasian (ANE)

    Estonian 0.183
    Scottish 0.182
    Hungarian 0.179
    Lithuanian 0.172
    Czech 0.167
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    Bergamo 0.108
    Sicilian 0.097
    Ashkenazi_Jew 0.069
    Maltese 0.068
    Sardinian 0.008

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    Quote Originally Posted by Joseph Capelli View Post
    Western Europeans hunters were basically Basque people without the med ancestry. The Scandinavians hunters were intermediate between North Asian people and western European hunters, but much closer to the former. In another study, the preistoric dane was really east asian shifted.

    http://polishgenes.blogspot.it/2013/...-bulgaria.html
    Northern and Eastern Euros have more Western Hunter Gatherer admix than Basques, it seems that the latter have some extra med.

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    The eastern shift in the ancient dane is possibly a result of another ancient admixture event. The study suggests those have happened, as they tested for the date of NE european admixture events which showed Russian and Mordovian siberian-related admixture is significantly more recent than that in Finns, which implies different sources.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Joseph Capelli View Post
    European hunters were of course similar to Basque bu without the Sardinian-like Med ancestry.
    Nope Basques are most similar to neolithic farmers, but I can see why Italians wouldn't like that

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    Apparently the EEF component also includes some of the WHG, although i don't know how much.

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    Its interesting how Italians cluster away from the neolithic farmers

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    Quote Originally Posted by Marowit View Post
    Its interesting how Italians cluster away from the neolithic farmers
    We are cloeser to them than most other Europeans.

    Well at least we don't cluster with asiatic hunters.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Joseph Capelli View Post
    We are cloeser to them than most other Europeans.

    Well at least we don't cluster with asiatic hunters.
    You are closer to MENA people while Iberians and Sardianians are closer to the european farmers.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Joseph Capelli View Post
    We are cloeser to them than most other Europeans.

    Well at least we don't cluster with asiatic hunters.
    They were more like a dimension of their own.

    Anyway, I wonder whether proto-Uralics were R (r1a1?) sounds plausible to me.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Marowit View Post
    You are closer to MENA people while Iberians and Sardianians are closer to the european farmers.
    Iberians are also closer to the Asiatic hunters and have plenty of african admixture on the spreadsheet.

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    So we have robust, dark haired and probably olive skinned and light eyed (also many had medium and dark eyes too i guess) Mesolithic hunter-gatherers and lighter-skinned, more gracile dark haired and dark eyed farmers so far, from a physical perspective.

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