View Poll Results: Should Turks and Kurds unite?

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    Quote Originally Posted by SouthAsian View Post
    Kurds deserve their own country craved out of Turkey as well as kurdish region of neighbor countries
    I do agree with this. Kurds should have their own country formed in territories of countries where they are located. They don't have to united with anyone.

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    Better having a country on their own now (with Southeastern part of Turkey as new Kurdistan), than take over whole Turkey in less than 50 year period demographically.......Let Turks choose which one fits 'em better.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mehmet View Post
    Overwhelming majority of Turks don't have any Kurdish ancestry or any sort of genetical components/bone structure similarity.

    However most of Turkey's Kurds have some Turk ancestry at various levels as a result of Turkmen tribes having immigrated there 1000 years ago.

    Kurds are typically Iranid, like Persians.

    Turks are typically Turanid and other components coming from Central Asia (like Pamirids or Asiatic Alpines).

    Turkey=
    35% Dinaricized Mediterraneans ( Greek colonists)

    20% Mediterraneans ( Aegean coast, greek colonists)

    25% Irano-Afghans ( eastern Turkey, Kurds )

    20% Turanids ( original semi-oriental Turkics, inhabits continental parts of central Anatolia one of them being region around Konya )= 35% D.M./ 25% I.A./ 20% Med./ 20% T.
    -East Mediterranean or Pontid subrace (Black Sea coast of Ukraine, Romania and Bulgaria; Aegean coasts of Greece and Turkey)

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    Quote Originally Posted by ButlerKing View Post
    Turkey=
    35% Dinaricized Mediterraneans ( Greek colonists)

    20% Mediterraneans ( Aegean coast, greek colonists)

    25% Irano-Afghans ( eastern Turkey, Kurds )

    20% Turanids ( original semi-oriental Turkics, inhabits continental parts of central Anatolia one of them being region around Konya )= 35% D.M./ 25% I.A./ 20% Med./ 20% T.
    -East Mediterranean or Pontid subrace (Black Sea coast of Ukraine, Romania and Bulgaria; Aegean coasts of Greece and Turkey)
    It's early 20th century propaganda, to 'Caucasoid-wash' the Secular Republic of Mustafa Kemal.

    According to these BS stats (posing Turks as Med or Dinaro-Meds), Turks should be looking like Spaniards, Italians or Greeks.
    Anyone today knows it's not the case.

    Reality:
    Turanid-(Asiatic) Alpinid-Pamirid: 50-60% (true ethnic Turks + Crimean Tatar settlers).
    Dinarics/Dinaricized Meds: 20% or so (Greek converts, Albanians, ...).
    Armenoid/Iranid: 25% (Kurds, Eastern Anatolians, ..).
    Few other elements like Arabids (Arabs), some Bosnian Pontids or so, etc etc..

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    Turks are northeurasian, kurds are iranic, no relation at all

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mehmet View Post
    It's early 20th century propaganda, to 'Caucasoid-wash' the Secular Republic of Mustafa Kemal.

    According to these BS stats (posing Turks as Med or Dinaro-Meds), Turks should be looking like Spaniards, Italians or Greeks.
    Anyone today knows it's not the case.

    Reality:
    Turanid-(Asiatic) Alpinid-Pamirid: 50-60% (true ethnic Turks + Crimean Tatar settlers).
    Dinarics/Dinaricized Meds: 20% or so (Greek converts, Albanians, ...).
    Armenoid/Iranid: 25% (Kurds, Eastern Anatolians, ..).
    Few other elements like Arabids (Arabs), some Bosnian Pontids or so, etc etc..
    Turanid (Asiatic element) is less in Modern Turkey nowadays because of massive migration and assimilation policy which took place in Turkey from Balkans in 19th and 20th.

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    Quote Originally Posted by The Illyrian Warrior View Post
    Turanid (Asiatic element) is less in Modern Turkey nowadays because of massive migration and assimilation policy which took place in Turkey from Balkans in 19th and 20th.
    Asiatic element is also less in Türkmenistan who are Oghuz Türks just like that, other Turkics are heavily mixed with mongols so stop this bullshit that every non-asian is not Türk! Even the ones in china who are mixed with mongols plus chinese have R1a R1b and J in big amounts

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    Quote Originally Posted by meralodem View Post
    And we should send back all the Kürts in the west and invade North Iraq cause it is the land of Türkmens plus move the other Kürts in North Iran cause they were lately put there by persian to assimilate plus to create conflict with the local Türks plus we should annex the Turkish lands whichstayed in bulgaria and greece and get Crimea from Ukraine and Dobruca from Romania ......... but first we should do it by going to the people referendum to the local people, I am sure the Türkmens will want to be a part of Turkey but not sure majority of Kürts want to be seperated from Turkey
    Turkmens are probably the least native to Northen Iraq. Northen Iraq is really Assyrian some of whom Arabized. Also it's a multi-ethnic region.
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    Quote Originally Posted by meralodem View Post
    Asiatic element is also less in Türkmenistan who are Oghuz Türks just like that, other Turkics are heavily mixed with mongols so stop this bullshit that every non-asian is not Türk! Even the ones in china who are mixed with mongols plus chinese have R1a R1b and J in big amounts
    Calm down sweety I didn't say anything to offend you, I'm just saying Turanid is definitively far less than 50% in general population...I'm not judging here who is turk or who isn't, as matter of fact those Balkan migrants (majority Albanians) are more hardcore Turks than turanid themselves so can't understand what did you see wrong in my post.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Nabatea1 View Post
    Turkmens are probably the least native to Northen Iraq. Northen Iraq is really Assyrian some of whom Arabized. Also it's a multi-ethnic region.
    Hard for you to believe but Arabs are foreigner in the north, Türkmen history goes way before Ottomans, they built and had their own cities and there are ancient Turkic signs there too like clan tamgas

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