Lord of the Rings: European Ethnogenesis

[Ford]

All I know is that I would be a Dùnedain chilling in the outskirts of The Shire

[TheMaestro]

Serbs are the Orcs

And Albanians and Bosniaks are Ents?

[TheMaestro]

All I know is that I would be a Dùnedain chilling in the outskirts of The Shire

We might end at the shire for weekends for some beers.

[Frowning Man]

The Lord of the Rings is very similar to the early Middle Ages, probably the 11th century.

Gondor resembles a Roman or Byzantine empire. Since the Gondorians are an ancient people with a very old statehood. Gondor is the Land of Stone. The climate here is warm, and the terrain is solid mountains. The most powerful and at the same time the most southeastern country. Heir to the great empire of Númenor, the army is strong and well trained. There are very strong heavy infantry and weak cavalry. Gondor reminds Byzantium, the heiress of the Roman Empire, waging a protracted war on land and sea with the Saracens and the Seljuk Turks who came in large numbers. Reminds of 11th century Byzantium
Although the appearance of the Gondorians, I do not know whether it resembles the ancient Romans or the Byzantines?



Another thing isRohan always reminded me of a mixture of semi-nomadic tribes of Alans (Sarmatians) and Goths Germanics. Since the Rohans, like the Alans, had a strong heavy cavalry. The Scythians had no heavy cavalry, although I might be wrong. also possible. The Rohans are excellent warriors, the best horsemen in the world, able to fight on foot if necessary. The militia on foot plays a supporting role. If we continue the "Byzantine" analogy, in the Balkans in the 11th century the laurels of the best horsemen belonged to the Bulgarians. Prior to that, the Magyars were noted here, who by the 11th century had quietly ceased to brawl, switched to a sedentary lifestyle and served the Byzantines as mercenary cavalry.


Gnomes are some kind of warlike mountain people. Nobody comes to mind from European nations. Maybe the Swiss? Gnomes also resemble the Scottish Highlanders and Welsh.

Mordor resembles the Ottoman Empire. Or maybe the USSR? Although it may be the empire of Tamerlane.

Harad is similar to the Arabs of the Umayyad dynasty or Achaemenid Iran.

The nomads of the east resemble the Huns, Kipchaks, Pechenegs, Avars.

In Tolkien, I see a simple tendency: all western ones are good, all eastern ones are bad).

[Blondie]

I live in Mordor lol

[Ruggery]

Maybe the Anti-Christ and Melkor Satan as Sauron is a protege and originally a follower of Melkor

According to the lore of the Lord of the Rings, Sauron attempted to conquist Middle Earth 2 times.

[robszans]

The Lord of the Rings story is apparently very real and happened 6500 years ago. Recorded in ancient Scandinavian (which J. R. R. Tolkien studied during university).

Here is the twitter thread outlining the details.

[PaleoEuropean]

Tolkein said that LOTR had no allegory or relation to the real world besides a few things like language. The series is a mish mash of his rejected stories and the Hobbit. He actually didn't plan them out very much which you think he would have. But the fact is 90% of the series was written on the fly and the stuff not from his previous stories was adlibbed ideas he just kinda made up and decided if he liked or not.

[PaleoEuropean]

According to the lore of the Lord of the Rings, Sauron attempted to conquist Middle Earth 2 times.

Well more than that if you count his attempts at manipulation.

[Ruggery]

Well more than that if you count his attempts at manipulation.

Yes, probably, but I'm talking about Sauron's direct attempts in person.