roma people from europe and racial censuses

[Mortimer]

well in USA there is the category "2 or more races" which is for most latinos/hispanics etc. (note: hispanic is counted as meta-ethnicity not as race it is a seperate question) well im against that this should apply also to roma people for several reasons i see major differences. latinos/hispanics derrive from a racial admixture caste system culture (mestizos, hornizos, castizos, zambos etc.) but romas do not, romas were always only "roma" ("gypsies" etc.) they were not considered mixed race unless they are recently mixed like with a roma parent and non-roma parent etc. as a ethnic group they were never considered bi-racial even hundred years ago when coon wrote his taxonomy he wrote that romas are stereotypically very dark skinned caucasoids who have their skin colour and features from india etc. he clearly made distinction between some mixed roma (roma from england who exhibit clearly european traits like light skin and blue eyes) and "pure roma" (majority in eastern europe). roma were always considered a own ethnic group and not bi-racials, only since 20 years or so since genetic studies roma are said to be generally a multi-racial group of people like mestizos but technically europeans, indians and ethiopians or afghans, central asians etc. can be considered mixed race too (European: EEF, WHG, ANE), Indian (ANI, ASI) etc. different genetic components in your ethnogenesis is normal. I think "Other" fits Roma in the Census much better then "2 or more Races" except if they have a english parent and one roma parent etc. then maybe they are "2 Races"

I dont see them as same as hispanics. Do you agree?

[portusaus]

I think "Other" fits Roma in the Census much better then "2 or more Races" except if they have a english parent and one roma parent etc. then maybe they are "2 Races"

I dont see them as same as hispanics. Do you agree?

I agree.

[sioned]

IMHO Gypsies are alien to Europe, they dont belong here and I place them on the same scale of unwanted creatures like Mudslems, Jews and niggers.

[aprichan]

IMHO Gypsies are alien to Europe, they dont belong here and I place them on the same scale of unwanted creatures like Mudslems, Jews and niggers.

Who put you on a pedestal?

[Italicus]

Who put you on a pedestal?

She wants her land to remain white. It's that simple.

[vader]

She wants her land to remain white. It's that simple.

But deep down she wants my iberomaurasian whg BBC. Don't let her forum persona fool you

[Cristiano viejo]

Who put you on a pedestal?

In Europe we should decide who is alien and who is not, baby.

[aprichan]

In Europe we should decide who is alien and who is not, baby.

Who are you calling baby?

[sailormoon]

Our study supports the origin of maternal and paternal Roma chromosomes in NW India, in agreement with linguistic, cultural, and previous genetic studies.1, 6, 7 It has been suggested that south India could have also genetically contributed to the proto-Roma based on the exact matches of Y-chromosome H haplotypes.49 However, their Indian sampling was geographically restricted and NW India was not included. Altogether, it seems that a bottleneck pointing to a small number of founder proto-Roma4, 7, 17 is the most likely scenario, which is compatible with a single migration wave rather than with multiple waves either from the same or from different places of origin. The coalescent analysis with BEAST does not support the occurrence of a bottleneck by the time proto-Roma started their journey (around 1.5 kya as estimated with autosomal data6). On the other hand, the rapid population growth of the Roma population few centuries after the founder effect (from few thousands in Medieval Period’s census to current 10 million) could have masked the bottleneck signature in the mtDNA. Alternatively, the mtDNA control region could be underpowered in the short time window of the Romani population founder event. Indeed, the signature of population expansion around 3–4 kya found in the Roma M lineages agrees with the expansion of Indo-Aryan languages in North India.48 This result could indicate that the Indo-Aryan ancestral population of the Roma already carried the Asian-specific M lineages along their expansion in North India. The number and nature of the tribes/castes from Northern India at the origin of the proto-Roma population awaits further studies providing a better phylogenetic, geographical, and social strata coverage, and a precise sampling strategy of the whole Indian subcontinent. Furthermore, the study of Roma groups from other regions where they expanded, such as in Central Asia, may shed additional light on the origins and demographic history of the proto-Roma.

https://www.nature.com/articles/ejhg2015201