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    Default A bottle of wine a day is not bad for you and abstaining is worse than drinking, scientist claims

    The recommended daily allowance for alcohol consumption in Britain may well be around the size of a medium to large glass of wine depending on your gender, but a leading scientist in the field has claimed drinking just over a bottle a day would do no harm to your health.

    Former World Health Organisation alcohol expert Dr Kari Poikolainen has analysed decades of research into the effects of alcohol on the human body, The Daily Mail reports.

    His conclusion - drinking is only harmful when you consume more than 13 units a day - that’s four to five pints of beer or more than a bottle of wine - which typically contains around 10 units.

    He also believes that drinking more than the current recommended daily intake may in fact be healthier than being a teetotaler.

    Responding to the comments, Julia Manning from think-tank 2020Health, told the newspaper: “This is an unhelpful contribution to the debate. It makes grand claims which we don’t see evidence for. Alcohol is a toxin, the risks outweigh the benefits.”

    http://www.independent.co.uk/life-st...s-9271010.html

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    Here in Portugal we have known the benefits of wine consumption for a very long time I must say though that one bottle per day might be too much.

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    I wouldn't trust from a guy who is a former alcohol expert, and the daily mail isn't a good source of information either

    Former World Health Organisation alcohol expert Dr Kari Poikolainen has analysed decades of research into the effects of alcohol on the human body, The Daily Mail reports.
    Responding to the comments, Julia Manning from think-tank 2020Health, told the newspaper: “This is an unhelpful contribution to the debate. It makes grand claims which we don’t see evidence for. Alcohol is a toxin, the risks outweigh the benefits.”
    I'd say that drinking in moderation has some benefits, but still, it does have it's disadvantages than those who aren't drinking any of it, and there are ways to prolonge your life like eating right and so on.

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    It's a widespread knowledge here that a glass of wine a day = living to a hundred.
    Logically, a bottle a day increases longevity even more?

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    The study is actually more than 3 years old, and experts suggest to take his claims with a grain of salt:
    When is the line crossed?

    Poikolainen’s critics demand to know where he gets his evidence from. “Given there are already confusing messages presented to the public about what is a safe amount of alcohol to drink, claims about moderate alcohol use without any evidence to back them up are incredibly unhelpful and potentially dangerous; muddying already cloudy waters,” Suzi Gage writes on The Guardian’s “Sifting the Evidence.”

    Another critic bashed Poikolainen’s generalized statement and its lack of evidence: “This is an unhelpful contribution to the debate,” Julia Manning of think tank 2020Health, said, according to the Daily Mail. “It makes grand claims which we don’t see evidence for. Alcohol is a toxin, the risks outweigh the benefits.”

    However, there have been some studies that support Poikolainen’s claim that abstainers are worse off than those who drink in moderation. In one of Poikolainen’s studies, he explains that drinking is linked to mortality in a J-shaped curve: people who drink small or moderate amounts of alcohol actually have lower death or illness risks than people who drink nothing. But once alcohol consumption becomes excessive, your risk for death, and diseases like coronary heart disease (CHD) rises sharply. According to Drink Aware, long-term, heavy drinking can ultimately lead to heart disease, but the website also states that alcohol can have protective benefits for the heart if you drink within the daily unit recommendations (and are over 45 years old). Alcohol can actually help prevent artery damage and blood clots; and small amounts of booze during a meal can reduce the amount of a protein called fibrinogen that is produced by the liver, which has to do with clot formation. And another study by Dr. Kenneth Mukamal of Harvard Medical School found that moderate drinkers have a lower risk of heart attacks and fatal heart disease than abstainers.

    However, Drink Aware concludes that more research is needed to decide whether red wine is actually good for the heart, though some scientists have found that flavonoids, antioxidants found in red wine, are quite good for you. Poikolainen writes that as “practical advice” for individual people, “the best course of action might be to compare carefully the potential benefits and costs of alcohol intake.” He continues:

    Protection from [coronary heart disease] by alcohol seems to be especially beneficial for men, for the old and middle-aged, for patients with CHD, and for healthy individuals with a family history of CHD. On the other hand, abstaining might be the healthiest choice for many patients with certain diseases, such as depression, hypertension, liver cirrhosis, or peptic ulcer, when these are alcohol-related. Risk of alcohol dependence should also be considered.

    Let’s take the French for example, who are notorious wine drinkers, but also overall have healthy hearts and remain thin despite a tendency to eat fatty, rich foods. It’s possible that French people, who drink wine more often than other types of alcohol (or who drink in moderation), are more likely to also have better overall lifestyles — drinking less, smoking less, eating healthier meals (or rich foods in moderate amounts), and working out more. It could be a combination of all of these things – perhaps quite simply living the words, “everything in moderation” — that is lessening the risk for heart disease.

    But to drink an entire bottle of wine every day? That’s probably not what moderation is, so take Poikolainen’s words with a grain of salt.
    http://www.medicaldaily.com/bottle-w...t-claim-278702

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    I imbibed on the fruit of the vine and had a bottle of red wine last night. Whilst it was fun at the time I don't feel so well today. I couldn't imagine doing this every day or that it is healthy for you.

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