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    Quote Originally Posted by Drunk-n-Stupid View Post
    this is stupid. There is not enough Neanderthal dna/ancestry in ANY person alive today at all, to have ANY influence or impact on their physical appearance what so ever, especially their facial features

    or else all those white americans with 5% (roughly) or whatever native indian or african american dna would have suttle injun/afro-american features, which they dont

    no matter how much neanderthal dna someone alive today has its still not even close to being enough to impact anything as far as their physical appearance goes at all, not even their skin or eye or hair color.

    the first woman has more, somewhat alpignid influence IMO than neanderthal (?)

    sometimes people on here should leave the classifying up to the real true anthropologists/scientists who actually know what they're doing, LOL
    And for millionth time, number of neanderthal specific allelles is not same as percentage of ancestry. Shit this gets old it's just basic maths.
    Out Of Africa Theory is a lie.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Melonhead View Post
    And for millionth time, number of neanderthal specific allelles is not same as percentage of ancestry. Shit this gets old it's just basic maths.
    ok?

    the point is there are NO visible physical traits in any modern human today that came from neanderthals

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    Quote Originally Posted by Unome View Post
    You actually can prove this assertion through 23andme, and other genetic testing companies (Neanderthal admix % > 3.0).

    So saying "you can't prove that" is false. It actually is very easy to prove the fact.
    there are no visible physical traits in any modern human that came from Neanderthals

    the neanderthal admixture in modern humans is too small and insignificant to be able to influence that at all, not even with hair or eye color

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    This british man has 5% neanderthal admixture according to 23andme type testing which is the highest i've heard of, but apparently there exist people with even around 8%.



    The red hair in 99,999% of modern europeans is not caused by the same gene as the one in neanderthals, there's necesarilly no correlation at all there, so you can stop posting redheads just for the sake of them being redheads.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Drunk-n-Stupid View Post
    there are no visible physical traits in any modern human that came from Neanderthals

    the neanderthal admixture in modern humans is too small and insignificant to be able to influence that at all, not even with hair or eye color
    No, they had freckles for starters.
    Out Of Africa Theory is a lie.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Drunk-n-Stupid View Post
    ok?

    the point is there are NO visible physical traits in any modern human today that came from neanderthals
    But there are... again, take a look at this example.

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    Looks like German basketball player Dirk Nowitzki's long lost brother.








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    Quote Originally Posted by Assarson View Post
    This british man has 5% neanderthal admixture according to 23andme type testing which is the highest i've heard of, but apparently there exist people with even around 8%.



    The red hair in 99,999% of modern europeans is not caused by the same gene as the one in neanderthals, there's necesarilly no correlation at all there, so you can stop posting redheads just for the sake of them being redheads.
    You need to prove these assertions, show some evidence.

    Red hair is rather unique and specific to Europeans, therefore easy to track the genes.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Unome View Post
    I believe the following women represent the 'purest' types of Neanderthals (aboriginal Northern Europeans) and if given a 23andme or another genetic test, they probably would score the highest Neanderthal admix (>3.0%). I guess that these women probably have direct maternal links to the ancient Neanderthal people.

    What do you think?



    What makes you think they would be more Neanderthal than other non-Africans? Their red hair? Also no humans alive today have direct maternal (mtDNA) lines that trace back to Neanderthals that we know of.

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    Bullshit

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    Quote Originally Posted by Unome View Post
    You need to prove these assertions, show some evidence.

    Red hair is rather unique and specific to Europeans, therefore easy to track the genes.
    http://humanorigins.si.edu/evidence/...-hair-and-more
    Ancient DNA has been used to show aspects of Neanderthal appearance. A fragment of the gene for the melanocortin 1 receptor (MRC1) was sequenced using DNA from two Neanderthal specimens from Spain and Italy, El Sidrón 1252 and Monte Lessini (Lalueza-Fox et al. 2007). Neanderthals had a mutation in this receptor gene that has not been found in modern humans. The mutation changes an amino acid, making the resulting protein less efficient. Modern humans have other MCR1 variants that are also less active resulting in red hair and pale skin. The less active Neanderthal mutation probably also resulted in red hair and pale skin, as in modern humans.

    The specific MCR1 mutation in Neanderthals has not found in modern humans (or occurs extremely rarely in modern humans).

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