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    Quote Originally Posted by Jackson View Post
    Well it was formed as a Germanic land with some Celts in it, and some mixed people.
    Actually Wales has Germanic ancestry, speaks a Germanic language and isn't all that different from it's neighbors. Maybe the Welsh are actually Germans in denial?
    What are you talking about? Welsh is a celtic language. Welsh come from a germanic word that mean "foreigner" or something like that.

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    Quote Originally Posted by impblack View Post
    What are you talking about? Welsh is a celtic language. Welsh come from a germanic word that mean "foreigner" or something like that.
    I was turning the situation on it's head.

    And they mostly speak English too (although i'm all for increased used of the Welsh language in Wales).

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jackson View Post
    I was turning the situation on it's head.

    And they mostly speak English too (although i'm all for increased used of the Welsh language in Wales).
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    Quote Originally Posted by Rhett Butler View Post
    The English are more Germanic than South Germans, and Austrians.
    Yes, it is correct on genetical point of view. English people have just a very slim celtic influence.

    For example: the Bavarians have more celtic genetic background than average English people.

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    Yes, i never hear that ''England is Celto-Germanic'' here. England is usually associated with Germanic.

    Quote Originally Posted by Rhett Butler View Post
    The English are more Germanic than South Germans, and Austrians.
    This is true.

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    England is Germanic and it doesn't matter how other countries think. They are partially Celtic but the Germanic language and genetics took over. This is proven by culture and genetics. Wales and Ireland are Celtic because this is how they identify but I'm not sure about the Scots. I'm not sure whether the Scots identify as Celtic or if other people have assumed they are Germanic. In the world of the Anthroforum people claim the Scots as Germanics and the Irish and Welsh as somewhat alien and some super Celtic populations despite genetics showing that all the British Isles populations cluster together. Logic doesn't come into the equation.

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    Just see the styles of their nedieval peasant's houses, and early folk traditions, and medieval material culture. The high culture (of elite and nobility) was affected by strong non-germanic influences, but the vast majority of their medieval common people (the English folk) lived very traditionally germanic life.
    They have always considered themselves as clearly germanic before the romantic era.

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    The entire celtic vs germanic supremacy revolving around the isles is bullshit. Meta ethnicities are also bullshit. Honestly I don't see why it matters. An Englishman is an Englishman, same for the rest of them.
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    *a whole thread of people confusing a linguistic designation for an ethnic one*
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    Quote Originally Posted by Longbowman View Post
    *a whole thread of people confusing a linguistic designation for an ethnic one*
    Well the two often travel together, for example you might get culture, language and ethnicity all travelling together, and when it's just heavy influence of a language/culture on an unchanged people (who still hold their ethno-cultural identity) you usually get heavy superficial influence but the fundamental structure remains what it was, or you get the formation of creole languages and cultures. Clearly Brythonic people became Anglo-Saxons, but they assimilated pretty much completely, so genetics would really be the only major thing that defined them differently. Or from an archaeological perspective the occasional survival of some Celtic or Romano-British practice such as weaving style or elements of metalworking, although they tend to be quite uncommon, they are there to be seen. The Anglo-Saxons effectively formed a society in which the assimilation was almost all from Brythonic to Anglo-Saxon. If the Britons had maintained the upper hand and had remained the dominant ethno-cultural group, people here would rather be Brythonic in pretty much every respect but with some Germanic ancestry and the odd cultural thing here and there. Or potentially a Creole of the two could have formed, which would be truly Celto-Germanic.

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