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    Quote Originally Posted by Ukko View Post
    Yes but was it after some mixing? I read this somewhere, does sound logical if they found mixing to have negative effects.
    I assume it was because some people started to mix with the Dravidians. Priests and Aristocrats were forbidden to marry outside their caste until today.
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    Quote Originally Posted by mrswan View Post
    how do you know that with such certainity anglo-jew? we talk here what happened thousands of years before christ, but common sense tells me and intuitive that india was never a white colony like the usa or mexico or whatever. certainly india was never 70% white like the linguistic map and data on indo-european castes suggests, do you seriously believe india was at one point majority white country like england or germany? as far back as recorded and how they looked like they were always like indians are today with major sub-races whcih are found today found back then, maybe if some whites conquered india it was like with asiatic huns and hungarians or turkic bulgars and bulgarians, not like with usa and americans or the new world. the indo-european language in india spread via the indians themselfes even if the very early roots might be from outside which i dont know and there is no certainity to know, there is only speculation at this point.
    Because Proto-Indo-European developed in Ukraine/Southern Russia which was white.

    It's 70% linguistically and culturally white.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Anglojew View Post
    It's not propaganda. If it is prove it wrong prove it with evidence.

    Your White Indian ancestors colonised India. You should be proud of their achievement and no-doubt it was some folk-memory that caused the Roma people to return to their White Motherland of Europa.
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    Is there many theories why they where kicked out or left? Really surprising they where let in Europe.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Anglojew View Post
    1. The two NATIONAL languages of India are Indo-European; Hindi and English. This is reality and not offensive.

    2. Yes, the Indus Valley Civisation was, as you prove, mixed-racial and pre-dated the White Invasion.

    Some claimed these Indo-european invasion came from Central Asia which would mean people like modern Tajiks or those ancient Scythians. I will surprised if these Indo-European invaders had even 3% of Mongoloid blood or more


    If it was from Afghanistan/Iran or Caucasus than I believe they were 100% pure Indo-european

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    Quote Originally Posted by Anglojew View Post
    It's not propaganda. If it is prove it wrong prove it with evidence.

    Your White Indian ancestors colonised India. You should be proud of their achievement and no-doubt it was some folk-memory that caused the Roma people to return to their White Motherland of Europa.
    do you have any evidence for what you say? indo-europeans never conquered india as a landmass, and they are not responsible for most of india to speak indo-european, at some point the langauge arrived from outside but it evolved further within india and indians themselfes spread that language further, the gene flow outside from india is limited, and they didnt made the caste system to dont mix with dravidians etc. which would suggest they were significant in numbers like half or at least a quarter of whole of indias population to make sense to establish anti-miscgenation laws the caste system has other roots and it is not fully studied yet, i dont like how you take some weird theories as granted and as proven evidence, you are quiete annoying
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    Quote Originally Posted by Anglojew View Post
    I assume it was because some people started to mix with the Dravidians. Priests and Aristocrats were forbidden to marry outside their caste until today.
    Yet they all look brown, some are pretty light but still brown. Anyone have DNA from these families?

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    Quote Originally Posted by mrswan View Post
    do you have any evidence for what you say? indo-europeans never conquered india as a landmass, and they are not responsible for most of india to speak indo-european, at some point the langauge arrived from outside but it evolved further within india and indians themselfes spread that language further, the gene flow outside from india is limited, and they didnt made the caste system to dont mix with dravidians etc. which would suggest they were significant in numbers like half or at least a quarter of whole of indias population to make sense to establish anti-miscgenation laws the caste system has other roots and it is not fully studied yet, i dont like how you take some weird theories as granted and as proven evidence, you are quiete annoying
    Obviously they conquered India. We have lingustic, cultural, religious evidence to support this.

    http://www.bharatvani.org/books/ait/ch53.htm
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    Scythian empire.

    They conquered parts of north India and some North Indian claim Scythian descent.



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    Quote Originally Posted by mrswan View Post
    do you have any evidence for what you say? indo-europeans never conquered india as a landmass, and they are not responsible for most of india to speak indo-european, at some point the langauge arrived from outside but it evolved further within india and indians themselfes spread that language further, the gene flow outside from india is limited, and they didnt made the caste system to dont mix with dravidians etc. which would suggest they were significant in numbers like half or at least a quarter of whole of indias population to make sense to establish anti-miscgenation laws the caste system has other roots and it is not fully studied yet, i dont like how you take some weird theories as granted and as proven evidence, you are quiete annoying
    Gilo the mr evidence. you should change your name to "MrswanTheTruth". anyway Gilo post your evidence of what you saying here. as it seems "common sense" is talking to you here. and for evidence, you should post yours. and start to debunk all over the place with your common sense. I want to see it as I am sure AngloJew wants to see you post your evidence for what you say here so sure of it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ukko View Post
    Yet they all look brown, some are pretty light but still brown. Anyone have DNA from these families?
    Not specifically by family. Would be interesting.

    The caste system in South Asia — which rigidly separates people into high, middle and lower classes — may have been firmly entrenched by about 2,000 years ago, a new genetic analysis suggests.


    Researchers found that people from different genetic populations in India began mixing about 4,200 years ago, but the mingling stopped around 1,900 years ago, according to the analysis published Thursday in the American Journal of Human Genetics.

    Combining this new genetic information with ancient texts, the results suggest that class distinctions emerged 3,000 to 3,500 years ago, and caste divisions became strict roughly two millennia ago.

    Though relationships between people of different social groups was once common, there was a "transformation where most groups now practice endogamy," or marry within their group, said study co-author Priya Moorjani, a geneticist at Harvard University.

    Ancestral populations
    Hindus in India have historically been born into one of four major castes, with myriad subdivisions within each caste. Even today, in some parts of the country, marriage outside of one's caste is forbidden and those in the outcast, or "untouchable" group are discriminated against and prohibited from participating in religious rituals. (The Indian government has outlawed certain types of discrimination against the lowest classes.)


    But when and why this system evolved has always been a bit murky, said Michael Witzel, a South Asian studies researcher at Harvard University, who was not involved in the work.

    Moorjani's past research revealed that all people in India trace their heritage to two genetic groups: An ancestral North Indian group originally from the Near East and the Caucasus region, and another South Indian group that was more closely related to people on the Andaman Islands.

    Today, everyone in India has DNA from both groups. "It's just the proportion of ancestry that you have that varies across India," Moorjani told LiveScience.

    To determine exactly when these ancient groups mixed, the team analyzed DNA from 371 people who were members of 73 groups throughout the subcontinent.

    Aside from finding when the mixing started and stopped, the researchers also found the mixing was thorough, with even the most isolated tribes showing ancestry from both groups.

    Period of transition
    Researchers aren't sure which groups of ancient people lived in India prior to 4,200 years ago, but Moorjani suspects the two groups lived side by side for centuries without intermarrying.

    Archaeological evidence indicates that the groups began intermarrying during a time of great upheaval. The Indus Valley civilization, which spanned much of modern-day North India and Pakistan, was waning, and huge migrations were occurring across North India. [History's Most Overlooked Mysteries]

    Ancient texts also reveal clues about the period.

    The Rigveda, a nearly 3,500-year-old collection of hymns written in Sanskrit, a North Indian language, mentions chieftains with South Indian names.

    "So there is some sort of mixture or intermarriage," Witzel told LiveScience.

    Early on, there were distinct classes of people — the priests, the nobility and the common people — but no mention of segregation or occupational restrictions. By about 3,000 years ago, the texts mention a fourth, lowest class: the Sudras. But it wasn't until about 100 B.C. that a holy text called the Manusmruti explicitly forbade intermarriage across castes.

    The study doesn't suggest that either the ancestral North or South Indian group formed the bulk of the upper or lower castes, Witzel said.

    Rather, when caste divisions hardened, any type of intermarriage was sharply curtailed, leading to much less mixing overall.
    http://www.nbcnews.com/science/india...udy-6C10874609

    The study;

    http://www.livescience.com/38751-gen...m-origins.html
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