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    Default Scots to stay British despite vote

    "SCOTS can expect to remain British citizens if they vote for independence, the UK Government has conceded."

    http://www.heraldscotland.com/politi...-vote.23257477

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    Shame.
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    Ach!

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    Can we have Scottish citizenship then?

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    The term British goes way back to when the Island was named after the Celts of the Island Britannia. Over time it came to be, British was someone from the Island Britain. You'll find that many Scot Nationalists would still call themselves British but want to end the Politically Union.

    Citizenship. Let me look it up. Think it's any UK citizen can apply for Scots citizenship if the you are born before a split. But don't quote me yet.

    They want an Irish style agreement.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jackson View Post
    Can we have Scottish citizenship then?
    Why would we want it?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Longbowman View Post
    Why would we want it?
    Because Scots are superior.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Uhtred View Post
    Because Scots are superior.
    They do have the murder capital of the UK. Maybe I'll visit someday?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Uhtred View Post
    Because Scots are superior.
    Hahahaha! No really, why?




    I personally think it would be better if Britain stays as it is now, but if Scotland wants to leave, then it should go. Completely. Surely if Scots can keep British citizenship they'd still be able to vote in British elections? That doesn't seem right.

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    Citizenship

    The choices open to us
    Deciding who is a citizen is a defining characteristic of an independent state and future Scottish governments will have the power to determine rules on citizenship and nationality.

    Our priorities for action

    We plan that British citizens habitually resident in Scotland on independence will be considered Scottish citizens. This will include British citizens who hold dual citizenship with another country. Scottish born British citizens currently living outside of Scotland will also be considered Scottish citizens.

    Following independence, other people will be able to apply for Scottish citizenship. For example, citizenship by descent will be available to those who have a parent or grandparent who qualifies for Scottish citizenship. Those who have a demonstrable connection to Scotland and have spent at least ten years living here at some stage, whether as a child or an adult, will also have the opportunity to apply for citizenship. Migrants on qualifying visas will also have the option of applying for naturalisation as a Scottish citizen.The UK allows dual or multiple citizenship for British citizens.

    If a British citizen acquires citizenship and a passport of another country, this does not affect their British citizenship, right to hold a British passport or right to live in the UK. The Scottish Government will also allow dual citizenship. It will be for the rest of the UK to decide whether it allows dual UK/Scottish citizenship, but we expect the normal rules to extend to Scottish citizens.

    Passports

    Inherent to citizenship is the right to hold a passport. In an independent Scotland all British citizens born or habitually resident in Scotland on day one of independence will have the right to acquire a Scottish passport, although, as in most countries, there will be no requirement to hold one. A Scottish passport will also be available to anyone who acquires Scottish citizenship through naturalisation. It is envisaged that passport
    lengths will continue to be five years for children and 10 years for adults and will carry a fee comparable to that presently required for a UK passport which will be used to cover the administrative and production costs of the passport.

    As a member of the EU, Scottish passports will follow the EU passport model and therefore will broadly follow the current look of UK passports in colour, size, and layout, but will be identified as a Scottish passport on the front cover. They will be designed to meet the standard requirements for all EU passports and will be valid for international travel in the same way UK passports are at present. The Scottish Government will continue to recognise any currently valid UK passports until their expiry date.

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