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Thread: KÖNIGSBERG (AKA KALININGRAD) UNDER INTERNATIONAL LAW: RUSSIAN, GERMAN, LITHUANIAN, OR SIMPLY...

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    Quote Originally Posted by Aunt Hilda View Post
    at the Crimea (Yalta) Conference, the Big Three agreed on the Curzon Line as the boundary between Poland and the USSR. However, the archival material clearly shows that there had not been any legally binding agreement made between the allies about the transfer of the Königsberg Region to the Soviet Union at any of the Second World War conferences.
    So they agreed on the Yalta conference, why would they need other conferences?

    What's more you forgot about the Helsinki Accords:

    "...The Helsinki Accords ... was the final act of the Conference on Security and Co-operation in Europe ... August 1, 1975. Thirty-five States, including the USA, Canada, and most European states except Albania and Andorra, signed the declaration in an attempt to improve relations between the Communist bloc and the West ... The Accords' ... enumerated the following 10 points:
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    Inviolability of frontiers
    Territorial integrity of States
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    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Helsinki_Accords

    ^ And the USA with Europe (except Albania) signed it. So only Albania has a legal "opportunity" to claim "rights" on Königsberg

    As a result all the new frontiers after 1991 can be debatable.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Aunt Hilda View Post
    it's a ''what if'' kind of thread.
    mentioning the fact that the russian federation, under international law, does not actually have a right to govern Kaliningad is not bashing Russia, it's a fact.
    under international law your EU shouldnt exist

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    The Rzeczpospolita should become reestablished and Prussia restored with aboriginal Balto-Slavs.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Unome View Post
    The Rzeczpospolita should become reestablished and Prussia restored with aboriginal Balto-Slavs.
    over our cold dead bodies.
    national motto - Nordic wannabe-ism

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    Quote Originally Posted by Hercus Monte View Post
    over our cold dead bodies.
    You cannot stop the future.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Unome View Post
    You cannot stop the future.
    Rzeczpospolita is not the future.
    national motto - Nordic wannabe-ism

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    Quote Originally Posted by Hercus Monte View Post
    Rzeczpospolita is not the future.
    Prussia is the future; Lithuanians have no voice in this.

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    yes and martians will rule all

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    So how many non-Russians are there living in Kaliningrad?

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    The city of Königsberg to Germany and all the rest of the oblast to Lithuania.

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