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  • the creation of a modern Baltic Prussian State

    6 26.09%
  • Support Germany’s or Lithuania’s claims

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    Quote Originally Posted by justme View Post
    If you accept the truth... It will stop hurting.
    Never!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Unome View Post
    Never!
    Ok then, live in denial.
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    The infidel filth can't see the obvious superiority of the Illyro-Gothic Islamic race...
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    Quote Originally Posted by justme View Post
    Ok then, live in denial.
    The best way to live.

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    Nobody talk about it but there was an independant party in Prussia.
    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Baltic_Republican_Party

    I don't arrive to find theirsupport by the local populkation. It seems there are enought popular to worry moscow. It should be interesting to know if they want to change the language and teach german at school.

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    Another link to a movement who promote the rebirth of Prussia.

    http://prussiankingdom.com/

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    Timeline of Old Prussian (West Baltic) Lands:



    In the 1200s there were 12 Pagan, West Baltic realms:

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_o...les_and_tribes

    Sudovia - https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Yotvingians
    Lubavia - https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lubawa
    Pomesania - https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pomesanians
    Pogesania - https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pogesanians
    Bartia - https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bartians
    Warmia - https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Warmians
    Sasna - https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sasna
    Galindia - https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Galindians
    Sambia - https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sambia_Peninsula
    Natangia - https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Natangians
    Nadrovia - https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nadruvians
    Skalovia - https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Skalvians

    Regions which emerged in formerly Prussian lands later:

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Prince...pric_of_Warmia
    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Warmia
    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Royal_Prussia
    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Polish...n_Commonwealth
    https://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Oberla...tpreu%C3%9Fen)
    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Masuria
    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lithuania_Minor
    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Marien...trict)#History - added to West Prussia after 1772

    Within so called Royal Prussia, only Lubavia and Pomesania were actual Prussian lands.

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    Before the Prussian Crusade (which started in year 1218) there were those 12 realms. After the Thirteen Years' War, most of Lubavia and Pomesania became parts of Polish Royal Prussia (the remaining parts became portions of Oberland - Upper Prussia - western part of Ducal Prussia). Lubavia was incorporated to Chełmno Voivodeship of Royal Prussia, and Pomesania (a less historical Polish name for this region is Powiśle, or "Land beyond the Vistula") to Malbork Voivodeship. Most of Pogesania became part of Oberland in Ducal Prussia. After the crusade Bartia was partially incorporated into Warmia (Ermland) within its new borders, and partially remained a separate region. Galindia and Sasna became known as Masuria after they were colonized by Polish settlers (most of whom came from Masovia, hence the name transfer). Some parts of Galindia were also absorbed by Masovia. Nadrovia and Skalovia became known as Lithuania Minor (or Prussian Lithuania) after they were colonized by Lithuanian settlers. Later part of Skalovia became known as Memelland (this part is now in Lithuania). Sudovia (also known as Yotvingia or Suwalszczyzna in Polish) was in Poland-Lithuania and later became part of the Duchy of Warsaw and of Congress Kingdom of Poland.

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    Apparently Lithuania was offered Kaliningrad after WW2, but refused (too many Russians to absorb):

    https://www.theapricity.com/forum/sh...=1#post5096810

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