AngloJew Embraces his partial Turkish-Jewish (Karaite or Khazar) Heritage

[Anglojew]

Haplogroup Q is a sister Haplogroup of R originating in Central Asia or Siberia.



There are four hypotheses for the origin of Jewish Q's;

1. A Karaite (Krymchak or Kipchak) origin.

2. A Khazar origin.

3. An ancient group, possibly the Scythians.

4. A combination of all three.

There is conflicting evidence for each, such as;

Y-DNA haplogroup Q1b1a (Q-L245), matches mostly with Ashkenazi Jews. The Q1b1a haplogroup has also been found among Iranians, Iraqi Arabs, Saudi Arabs, Syrian Arabs, Armenians, and Christian Assyrians. It thus appears that their common ancestor lived in the Middle East region of West Asia. Prior to that time the deeper ancestors lived in more central-easterly portions of Asia, since Q1b1a's parent haplogroup Q-M378 is found in modern times among the Uygurs of northwest China, the Hazaras of Afghanistan, and the Sindhi people of Pakistan, and the parental root Q haplogroup seems to have originated in Siberia. The apparent point of origin of specifically the Q1b1a haplogroup in the Middle East calls into question the hypothesis that Q1b1a came to Ashkenazim from the Khazars, a people who originated in Central Asia. Incidentally, the Khazars were Rabbinical and there is no evidence of a religious or ethnic connection between them and Karaites, and Karaites did not yet live in Eastern Europe in the time of the Khazars, so even if Q1b1a had been found in a native Crimean Karaite lineage (so far it hasn't been) it would not have been suggestive of Khazar origins. We also lack evidence of Jewish-professing Khazars moving to the Uygur lands. Since Q1b1a itself isn't found among Uygurs, but only its parent, it's merely a coincidence that this Karaite's family once lived in the Uygur region.

http://www.khazaria.com/genetics/karaites.html

Yet, whether of Scythian, Kipchak, Krymchak or Khazar origin there does seem to be a Turkish connection, or origin, for my Haplogroup.



I therefore embrace my Turkish heritage and say "Merhaba" to you all.

[SardiniaAtlantis]

Cograts AngloJew you have singlehandedly just Demonstrated to me and many others that the partial Khazar origin in AK's is not bunk!

[Anglojew]

Cograts AngloJew you have singlehandedly just Demonstrated to me and many others that the partial Khazar origin in AK's is not bunk!

Yeah. Jury's still out if it's Specifically Khazar but there is a Turkic element in some Karaite and Ashkenazi Jews.

[Mn The Loki TA Son]

I should also Embrace mine, I'm Haplogroup J.

[SardiniaAtlantis]

Yeah. Jury's still out if it's Specifically Khazar but there is a Turkic element in some Karaite and Ashkenazi Jews.

Well a number of Turks tested have been shown to share genetic links with AJs.

[Anglojew]

I should also Embrace mine, I'm Haplogroup J.

Which J? You're probably Sephardi.

[Mn The Loki TA Son]

Which J? You're probably Sephardi.

J2

[Anglojew]

Well a number of Turks tested have been shown to share genetic links with AJs.

Interesting. There's lots of crypto-Jews in Turkey too.

[Anglojew]

J2

J-M172 is very Jewish. I'd say you're a member of the tribe.

[SardiniaAtlantis]

Interesting. There's lots of crypto-Jews in Turkey too.

The Young Turks.