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    Default What Ethnic Group do you relate the most with?

    There are two parts I would like to see from this discussion.

    1. What do you relate the most with ethnically? European? "White"? a National Ethnicity?a Sub-National Ethnic group? A macro-group like Celtic, Germanic, or Romance? Please be as specific as possible.

    2. If you are American, or you have more than one ancestral group, do you play favoritism between them? Why? For example, if you are German and English - do you feel more "German-American" than "English-American"? Or let's say your country used to be Celtic, but it was romanticize. Do you feel more romantic or celtic? Just two of the many examples this could lead to.

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    1. I find myself to be a mixture of some colonial Europeans, though predominately newer immigrants(I.E My Grandmother). I can claim myself to have 4 different Macro-Groups in my ancestry, as well as only being "culturally" new-American. So I really can only feel agglomerated European or "American" in the sense that I have a scattered ancestry. Having said that, I do not feel "American" at the same time, because with the exception of my German ancestry, my ancestors haven't been here long enough to be considered "old stock" and therefore you can't really relate enough to the country's origin. So I think "agglomerated European new worlder" is a good description. Also, if you haven't learned this already, I denounce the use of "white".

    2. As for relating more to one ancestry group than another, I feel closer to my German-American or Pennsylvania German ancestry because that is what I've been exposed to the most.

    Having said that, I'm not too interested in it much right now because of this heavy association. I'm starting to feel more "Spanish" and "French" because they are recent components of my ancestry, even to the point where my father and other close relatives can speak the language of the previous, although hesitantly and not what I would call "fluently". I've also found myself to have to defend my Spanish ancestry as European the most, here in the United States, which kind of brings me closer to it. It is also the one that people ascribe to me mostly because I guess I look predominately, to American eyes, as Spanish or more generally "Hispanic/Latino".

    Of course I can relate to my English ancestry a lot as well, despite how minute it might be, due to myself being American - and without a doubt America starting out as an extension of England, irregardless of the ancestry of Americans today. Not only that, it is my native language. So while I'm more naturally attached to my English and German ancestries, I'm the least interested in them, because of the familiarity they bring.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Stefan View Post
    1. What do you relate the most with ethnically? European? "White"? a National Ethnicity?a Sub-National Ethnic group? A macro-group like Celtic, Germanic, or Romance? Please be as specific as possible.

    2. If you are American, or you have more than one ancestral group, do you play favoritism between them? Why? For example, if you are German and English - do you feel more "German-American" than "English-American"? Or let's say your country used to be Celtic, but it was romanticize. Do you feel more romantic or celtic? Just two of the many examples this could lead to.
    OK. I suppose primarily Anglo-American. About 70% of my ancestors were British (including the Irish).

    Secondarily, Pennsylvania German. I'm only about 18% German, but as you can imagine my mother was nearly 40% and the maternal side of my family largely considers themselves Pennsylvania Dutch. Having grown up in Pennsylvania and being closer to my mom's side of the family than my dad's it may account for more than just the percentage would suggest.

    The other bit is 1/8 Lithuanian. No way do I feel Lithuanian. I never met my great-grandmother...I've never even heard a native Lithuanian speak their language in real life. Although the exclamation "Jesu!" (pronounced yay-zoo - Jesus!) was sometimes said by my grandmother.

    I don't really play favoritism, other than that neither I nor the rest of the family consider ourselves Lithuanian. I just consider myself Old Stock American since both my British ancestors and my German ancestors have been here since colonial times...with some exceptions of course, but they blended into the greater scheme of things rather well.

    Being English and German is quite common in Pennsylvania, so maybe I'm Old Stock Pennsylvanian really.

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    Totally or strongly related to:
    Catalans and Aragonese

    Very related to:
    Other ethnic groups from Iberia and France:
    Spanish, Basques, French, Galicians & Portuguese, Gascons & Occitans...

    Quite related to:
    Other Romance ethnic groups from Europe and the Americas

    Partially related to:
    Other European ethnic groups, particularly Western ones

    Somewhat related to:
    Other ethnic groups from the Mediterranean
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    I'll use Ibex system, which is also perfect for me.


    Totally or strongly related to:
    Portuguese

    Very related to:
    Brazilians & Galicians and Spaniards(Castillians, Basques, Catalans, etc...)

    Quite related to:
    Other Central/South Americans(particulary the Southern ones)

    Partially related to:
    French and Italians

    Somewhat related to:
    other ethnic groups from the Mediterranean
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    Quote Originally Posted by Kadu View Post
    Very related to:
    Brazilians & Galicians and Spaniards(Castillians, Basques, Catalans, etc...)
    ^ I understand that:

    1. Galicians are not Spaniards. (Falkata will love it. )

    2. You only feel very related to Catalans and Basques in Spain, but not to those in France and Andorra.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Stefan View Post
    1. What do you relate the most with ethnically?
    My fellow Old Stock Americans and Canadians, no doubt. I've been to Europe. I've worked and conversed extensively with Europeans and the only one's I've found myself able to relate to with an approximation of the ease with which I do North Americans are the English. I've not met enough Aussies and Kiwis to judge, but I have a feeling that they'd be on par with the English in that respect. Also, although I'm a North American of French extraction, I don't find that I get on particularly well with people from France. There's a tremendous gulf between us.

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    "Litwiny" (singular "Litwin"). That used to be a common name for the people of Grand Duchy of Lithuania, now Lithuanians and Belorussians, some also became Polish. I also feel related to other Balts and Slavs.

    I feel kinda related to Holsteinians, i am only 1/8, but my great-grandfather is still alive, and i do speak some Holsteinisch.

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    1: Primarily, Anglophone Old Stock Americans and Canadians
    2: The British, largely the Scottish and English, come up secondarily simply because my blood quantum is largely descended from the Scots and English, in that order.
    3: French Creoles come up a close second to the British. I am 1/8 French Creole myself, but we have retained the Catholicism and I'm trying to brush up on the language.
    4:The Occitans, because my French ancestors largely came from this area of France.
    5: Germans, Austrians and Swiss are found sprinkled within my other ancestries' family lines, so to a degree, I partly identify with them.

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    all categories are one ethnicity in my case...no relations with the others...
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    Totally or strongly related to:
    Dutch and Flemish
    Very related to:
    Afrikaners, Frisians, Saxon Dutch
    Quite related to:
    Germans, English (and other Germanic peoples)
    Partially related to:

    • Overseas Germanic Europeans (Americans, New Zealanders, Canadians, Australians)
    • People with Dutch admixture from the former Dutch colonies
    Somewhat related to:
    Other (non-Germanic) European peoples.



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