EU, United Nations and Turkey Gang Up on Switzerland Following Minaret Ban

[Osweo]

A piece of Architecture can be regulated through Urbanistic legislation it doesn't need a campaign of hatred.

Our tyrants are forever labelling our simple DISLIKE of certain damaging developments as 'hatred'...

We don't want mosques everywhere, the Swiss don't want their townscapes marred. It's as simple as that.

But! "WHY don't you want this?!?" the traitors love to squeal. "Perhaps you're a ... RACIST!!!!"

We shouldn't even have to tell our political SERVANTS why we don't want something, and certainly don't appreciate our desires to be so interpreted, time after time.

Good to see you're fully rehearsed in the anti-European EU do-gooding Newspeak, Kadu. You'll go far in life, no doubt.

Tyranny would be if they passed this ban, it would represent a step closer to the authoritarian theocratic states of the middle East.

Yeah Kadu, why don't you go on some Muslim board and lecture THEM about your 'values'? No... Far more important to turn OUR lands into a mess in the name of abstract 'liberty'?

[Sol Invictus]

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[Kadu]

Our tyrants are forever labelling our simple DISLIKE of certain damaging developments as 'hatred'...

Sure! comparing minarets with missiles is only about dislike, right!

We don't want mosques everywhere, the Swiss don't want their townscapes marred. It's as simple as that.

Even if the ban went ahead mosques wouldn't be banned.

But! "WHY don't you want this?!?" the traitors love to squeal. "Perhaps you're a ... RACIST!!!!"

It's not about liking mosques or churches it's about defending religious freedom and specifically freedom of cult, and not in any place but in a very specific place, in a temple.

We shouldn't even have to tell our political SERVANTS why we don't want something, and certainly don't appreciate our desires to be so interpreted, time after time.

Once again you are failing to understand the concept of democracy. Democracy isn't the "dictatorship of the majority" it involves respecting the constitution.
There are unalienable rights which democracy can't take from its citizens, even if a majority wants it to.

Yeah Kadu, why don't you go on some Muslim board and lecture THEM about your 'values'? No... Far more important to turn OUR lands into a mess in the name of abstract 'liberty'?

I'm posting in a European dedicated forum, and all European countries are secular, possess a constitution and/or signed the ECHR. If you like so much to cut back on religious freedom i advice you to move to any theocratic state in the middle East.

[Sol Invictus]

Once again you are failing to understand the concept of democracy. Democracy isn't the "dictatorship of the majority" it involves respecting the constitution.
There are unalienable rights which democracy can't take from its citizens, even if a majority wants it to.

In a democracy, what the majority wants, the majority gets. If the majority wants to alter or abolish government, or change the constitution, they get it.

End of story.

I'm posting in a European dedicated forum, and all European countries are secular, possess a constitution and/or signed the ECHR. If you like so much to cut back on religious freedom i advice you to move to any theocratic state in the middle East.

http://www.revleft.com

That may be more suitable for you.

[Osweo]

So the essence of 'democracy' in other words, is the perpetuation and elaboration of structures to ensure that the demos do NOT get what they want?!? And we're supposed to uphold this, even DIE for it, for WHAT, exactly?

Fuck lawyers, fuck politicians, fuck intellectuals. I want me some actual FOLK-democracy and FOLK-justice.

I'm glad I'm not so educated and subtle as you, Kadu, to be able to stomach what you're selling us.

[Sol Invictus]

I'm glad I'm not so educated and subtle as you, Kadu, to be able to stomach what you're selling us.

Yeah I hear it enough from the television, I don't need to see it here..

[Kadu]

In a democracy, what the majority wants, the majority gets. If the majority wants to alter or abolish government, or change the constitution, they get it.

End of story.

You are confusing tyranny of the majority with democracy. As i said previously you cannot violate the individuals rights, it's a safeguard to all citizens. It assures the sacred principles of freedom and equality in any democracy.

[Sol Invictus]

You are confusing tyranny of the majority with democracy. As i said previously you cannot violate the individuals rights, it's a safeguard to all citizens. It assures the sacred principles of freedom and equality in any democracy.

Democracy is the will of the majority OVER minority.

Call it tyranny or whatever, this is our birthright denied, replaced with ACTUAL

Tyranny.

[Psychonaut]

I'm sorry but when you sign a contract it is expected that you follow it.

Do you actually believe that a contract a nation enters into trumps its sovereignty?

[Kadu]

Do you actually believe that a contract a nation enters into trumps its sovereignty?

It's not an international demand it is also in their constitution.