EU, United Nations and Turkey Gang Up on Switzerland Following Minaret Ban

[The Lawspeaker]

Who should we be blaming, the Muslims or the Dutch Govt for allowing them to come into the country in the first place?

Both. The government should be investigated for treason and the Muslims stripped of any rights and deported.

They're still Dutch citizens and are allowed the same rights as the native Dutch

They shouldn't be. Only native Dutch and those married to native Dutch should get the rights of citizens.

Thanks for the supper idea

Selamat menjamu selera! (and no that's not Swedish but it means something like "Bon appetit".

[The Lawspeaker]

They are equal by the law. If you don't want it don't grant them citizenship. Easy as this.

They shouldn't be equal by law. Even a European who has been living on some other countries' soil for years shouldn't start making any demands.

[Treffie]

Frankly, I don't know and I don't really care whether the Swiss voted against a piece of architecture they don't like, against Islam as a religion, or perhaps against both. It's their house and they make the rules.

Naturally. I don't have any bias towards or against their decision and I don't want the Swiss to be influenced by a larger body to change it. My concern is the bigger picture of people's rights in Europe. Will this become an excuse for other parts of Europe to start taking away the freedoms of other groups, such as Jews etc?

[Kadu]

They shouldn't be equal by law. Even a European who has been living on some other countries soil for years shouldn't start making any demands.

That's another matter which is open to discussion, but the fact that they are currently equal by law is not, it's a fact that they are.

[Treffie]

Both. The government should be investigated for treason and the Muslims stripped of any rights and deported.

All of them? Why? How about the 2nd and 3rd generations, where will we send them and most importantly, who will take them?

[Kadu]

Both. The government should be investigated for treason and the Muslims stripped of any rights and deported.

Well you can't impose a retroactive measure, but you can close your borders to immigrants.

[The Lawspeaker]

Well you can't impose a retroactive measure, but you can close your borders to immigrants.

Nope. It should be a retroactive measure too because otherwise our problems won't be solved.

All of them? Why? How about the 2nd and 3rd generations, where will we send them and most importantly, who will take them?

I don't care. Their ancestral homelands and if they don't accept them we will just have to kick out of the plane on the tarmac.
And a lot of those people hold dual passports by the way. As for instance one cannot loose the Moroccan nationality.
If only one parent is Moroccan so is his/her offspring.

[Kadu]

Nope. It should be a retroactive measure too because otherwise our problems won't be solved.

I'm not talking to a five years old kid i'm talking to a grown up Man, as Arawn mentioned you have immigrants living there for years and also second and third generations, you simply can't impose a retroactive measure, especially to people who are citizens by jus solis and jus sanguinis.

[The Lawspeaker]

I'm not talking to a five years old kid i'm talking to a grown up Man, as Arawn mentioned you have immigrants living there for years and also second and third generations, you simply can't impose a retroactive measure, especially to people who are citizens by jus sanguinis.

If we keep them here the problem will not be solved. They are not Dutch or European and let us not pretend that they are.
They aren't. And they aren't citizens by blood as they don't have Dutch blood.

[Kadu]

If we keep them here the problem will not be solved. They are not Dutch or European and let us not pretend that they are.
They aren't. And they aren't citizens by blood as they don't have Dutch blood.

I added jus solis, i'm sorry, but even just taking in account jus sanguinis what about a half Dutch half Moroccan?