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    Default The tragicomic tale of the black Cherokee

    http://johnhawks.net/weblog/topics/r...ting_2005.html

    I posted this in the european orgins for native americans thread but I didn't want it to get lost.

    Long ago some escaped black slaves were taken into most of the east coast tribes just because they were nice. Recently though they have been kind of a problem in some way (like the black tribe members [who mostly don't live with the tribe] want to modernize tribe and some other crap) and so the real natives have basically decided to vote them out of the tribe. Obviously it's a big deal because if they get kicked from the tribe they lose their support money, so they have a legal battle going on and ultimately decide to have everyone genetically tested to see who has native american DNA and who doesn't.

    However, the genetic testing results shock everyone (results on page 4).
    http://www.wired.com/wired/archive/1...w=wn_tophead_5

    The range of Indian blood was from 0 to 30 percent, for an average of just 6 percent - almost identical to an East Coast African-American population.
    THE AVERAGE AMOUNT OF NATIVE AMERICAN DNA IS ONLY 6% FOR CHEROKEE AS A WHOLE!!! No higher than the African American slaves they took in!



    When I read this the first time I had a good laugh, thinking they were all fraudsters. However, now I have to wonder. Cherokee definitely look the most caucasoid of all native americans, and some of the early paintings of them look 100% european. There's also a lot of people who claim partial ancestry who show up with no native american DNA. So, maybe the issue is not that they have mixed almost completely but that they were always largely europoid.

    So when some idiot talks about 'native american' DNA, remember they are comparing it to just a few western tribes. The eastern tribes are largely wiped out, or never been tested, and that's where you'd expect to see Solutrean DNA show up.
    Out Of Africa Theory is a lie.
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    You need to learn to read studies man...

    He shows charts indicating that African ancestry in the 95 Freedmen he tested ranged from 4 to 76 percent, while European ancestry varied from 0 to 62 percent. "Native American was surprising," Kittles says as he presses the slide clicker to bring up the figures that everyone's waiting for. The range of Indian blood was from 0 to 30 percent, for an average of just 6 percent - almost identical to an East Coast African-American population.
    Freedman were blacks accepted into the Indian tribes post 1866. The average Freedman has 6% Indian blood. So unless "CHEROKEE AS A WHOLE!!!" are black...

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    Lol dude can't interpret fucking results well. Melonhead probably believes everything they say on Ancient Aliens too. lmao
    Eurogenes EUtest V2 K15 Oracle-x ------------------ McDonald results
    Spanish_Galicia 43.35% ------------------ Spain - 42.3%
    North_Amerindian 14.83% -----------French - 19.9%
    Spanish_Extremadura 8.70% --------Maya - 16.1%
    Bantu_S.E. 8.62% ------------- Moroccan - 13.9%
    Algerian 5.98% --------------------- Yoruba - 7.8%
    Portuguese 4.68%
    Orcadian 4.15%

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    Hey! It's proven fact that aliens nuked the dinosaurs 65 million years ago! We have the drawings in Cambodia and Chile of dinosaurs existing 2000 years ago to prove it!

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    But even the best tests have large margins of error. "If you show a positive result of 4 or 5 or 6 percentage points, there's a possibility that it isn't indicating Native American ancestry," Frudakis says. People with these levels of Indian blood may simply have genetic roots in places like Greece or Turkey, whose natives can convey Indian-ness in their DNA. Pakistanis, meanwhile, typically show 30 percent Native American heritage, for reasons that are not yet totally clear to scientists.

    This is more interesting than what the idiot OP posted.
    Eurogenes EUtest V2 K15 Oracle-x ------------------ McDonald results
    Spanish_Galicia 43.35% ------------------ Spain - 42.3%
    North_Amerindian 14.83% -----------French - 19.9%
    Spanish_Extremadura 8.70% --------Maya - 16.1%
    Bantu_S.E. 8.62% ------------- Moroccan - 13.9%
    Algerian 5.98% --------------------- Yoruba - 7.8%
    Portuguese 4.68%
    Orcadian 4.15%

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    Yeah what's with that. Maybe just crappy tests?

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