Intoxicated Sexual Assault Victims Are as Guilty as Their Attackers

[RandoBloom]

Nobody is responsible for a drunk woman, but the woman BUT if a man was going to take advantage of a girl based on the fact she is asleep or has been drinking, than that surely can't be right, a blind drunk man wouldn't even have the foresight to rape a woman, his mind would be gone, you have to have your wits about you enough to even have the physical action abilities to do such a thing.

By the same logic a blind drunk woman wouldnt know if she was raped.
Thus disabling that logic. If a man is drunk then he cant be helf responsible unless a woman is responsible

[Black Wolf]

It all depends on the situation as each one is different. Sometimes the man is at fault, sometimes the woman and sometimes both.

[SardiniaAtlantis]

By the same logic a blind drunk woman wouldnt know if she was raped.
Thus disabling that logic. If a man is drunk then he cant be helf responsible unless a woman is responsible

WTF? I can see where youd argue if both are drunk and willing. After all consent is consent if they are both intoxicated and on the same page..but to say that an intoxicated man feeling up a girl that is asleep is ok because he is intoxicated? Thats inexcusable.

[Äijä]

I dont accept rape in any form but we have to start giving stigma to all that drink too much and act crazy.

Finnish woman that had just gotten engaged went to a bar when her man was not home, she also brought home a man tattooed in the face for some drinks..
The man happened to be one of those that hear voices and uses drugs, he raped, slaughtered and rumors have it, ate some of her.

I dont personally drink too much, never cheated any woman and I call that karma.

[Hierarchalist]

I understand that, i don't deny that is it dangerous for any woman to drink excessively to that point.. but you don't even need to be completely drunk to be overpowered by most men, some choices of words he used for his reasoning is wrong though.

Women are more likely to be raped by someone they know than a complete stranger, so his logic in that instance would be 'it's a womans fault they were trusting or drank in the presence of a friend/acquaintance'. Every person ultimately should have a right to a good time without the threat of rape though.

So what signals is a woman giving off when she exposes her tits and ass for everyone to see, gets drunk or high and starts making advances to whatever turd she lays eyes on? Then when she wakes up the next morning next to some guy she doesn't like the look of and declares that she was "raped".....

Who is "responsible" here? And who doesn't want to be "responsible" here?

There is a certain complacent entitlement that women seem to possess. That even when they're asking for it, a man is somehow to blame for taking advantage of their stupidity, lack of self-awareness and ignorance as to the consequences of their own actions.

[MissProvocateur]

"NOthing I thought you were asleep!!" As if that would make it ok?! WTF!!!

That's exactly what I thought at the moment, but I didn't say it because I was too stupid/scared/shocked.

But a drunk man is responsible for his actions right? Giving woman ability to kill herself with alcohol and expecting everyone else to be responsible?
What a load of crap.

There's one thing you have to understand, a drunk woman/man (rape victim, really.) Is usually unable to defend him/herself. The perpetrator is always stronger than the victim, so being drunk isn't really an excuse. Besides, most men who are so incredibly drunk they can't make basic moral decisions such as "don't rape.", can't even get an erection. If a man is sober enough to get an erection and force himself upon another human being, he is sober enough to know what he's doing.

[Nehellenia]

By the same logic a blind drunk woman wouldnt know if she was raped.
Thus disabling that logic. If a man is drunk then he cant be helf responsible unless a woman is responsible

He can when there's no consent given, and memory may be fragmented for the woman in such a thing, that's why there are rape kits taken by hospitals. Trust me.. i'm sure a woman could physically notice a pain like rape.

[Äijä]

That's exactly what I thought at the moment, but I didn't say it because I was too stupid/scared/shocked.



There's one thing you have to understand, a drunk woman/man (rape victim, really.) Is usually unable to defend him/herself. The perpetrator is always stronger than the victim, so being drunk isn't really an excuse. Besides, most men who are so incredibly drunk they can't make basic moral decisions such as "don't rape.", can't even get an erection. If a man is sober enough to get an erection and force himself upon another human being, he is sober enough to know what he's doing.

I would have to agree, it takes technique and stamina, not to mention if it would not be wet.

[MissProvocateur]

So what signals is a woman giving off when she exposes her tits and ass for everyone to see, gets drunk or high and starts making advances to whatever turd she lays eyes on? Then when she wakes up the next morning next to some guy she doesn't like the look of and declares that she was "raped".....

Who is "responsible" here? And who doesn't want to be "responsible" here?

There is a certain complacent entitlement that women seem to possess. That even when they're asking for it, a man is somehow to blame for taking advantage of their stupidity, lack of self-awareness and ignorance as to the consequences of their own actions.

That's incredibly judgmental. I understand many "rape" crimes are reported and that sometimes It's just a girl who regrets having sex with someone because her reputation is harmed (I know someone who did this, and I agree it's utterly repugnant.), but most of the time that isn't the case. Nobody is asking for rape. They are either asking for sex or to be left alone, but never rape.

[Nehellenia]

So what signals is a woman giving off when she exposes her tits and ass for everyone to see, gets drunk or high and starts making advances to whatever turd she lays eyes on? Then when she wakes up the next morning next to some guy she doesn't like the look of and declares that she was "raped".....

Who is "responsible" here? And who doesn't want to be "responsible" here?

There is a certain complacent entitlement that women seem to possess. That even when they're asking for it, a man is somehow to blame for taking advantage of their stupidity, lack of self-awareness and ignorance as to the consequences of their own actions.

That is called a 'regrettable one night stand'. Rape is COMPLETELY DIFFERENT.