Robert Fisk speaks about the Armenian Genocide by the Turks

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How many genocide centers and related genocide bodies are sponsored by Armenians?

-The Holocaust Memorial Center in Washington that went on to recognize the Armenian "Genocide", had a significant donation in the form of 1 million dollars from a wealthy Armenian who later reneged on his promise, not unlike the time when Armenia, after her post World War 1 formation, reneged on a 50 million dollar loan at %5 interest, from the United States government. Afterwards betraying the USA by willingly, according to the young nation’s first prime minister's 1923 Manifesto, joining the Soviet Union. Another New York University building is going up in Greenwich Village, The Kevorkian Institute of Near East Studies.

-Doctor Stephen Feinstein and his Affiliated Faculties and other parties associated with the University of Minnesota's Center for Holocaust and Genocide Studies, CHGS. The center is financed by at least one wealthy Armenian sponsor. They even forged a Talat Pasha telegram.

-Armenian Assembly of America, with a $2.5 million budget for the "Armenian Genocide Reaffirmation".

-There are so many powerful Armenians in France. Armenian organization, the AGBU, today has an annual budget of 27 million dollars. This is only one of many powerful Armenian organizations throughout the world. Albeit likely among the better financed.

-The Armenians have perhaps around 50 full time professionals in Washington DC doing nothing but working each and every day to undercut Turkey and Azerbaijan and promote themselves for more foreign aid and taxpayer funding. Armenians, in the last 10 years, have probably spent about 14 million dollars to support all the political candidates they favored. When those candidates got elected, Armenia got 1.4 billion dollars in the same 10 years as American aid. That is, for every 1 dollar Armenian Americans "invested", they got $100 back in American Aid to Armenia, 100 to 1 return.

(Samuel Weems, pro-Armenians may not like Sam Weems but the only relevant matter is whether these facts and figures are correct)

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Did the UN recognize the Armenian "Genocide" ? Armenian Assembly of America said yes and claimed UN recognition by the year 2000.

-The United Nations has not approved or endorsed a report labeling the Armenian experience as "Genocide", UN spokesman Farhan Haq declared on October the 5th, 2000.

-The Armenian "Genocide" cannot be labeled as a genocide, as the 1948 UN Convention presents in its articles that there must be "intent", never proven with genuine evidence and the targeted group's political alliance may present a problem. The Armenians were allied with the Russians and French. Most people interpret "genocide" as what happened to the Jews under Hitler.

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Why are the "genocide scholars" so dogmatic?

-They are brainwashed and bigoted. Like Henry Morgenthau, they have a deep rooted belief that the Turks are savage by nature and must have been guilty.

-As Professor McCarthy has speculated, some who are Jewish have an irrational fear rejection of the Armenian "Genocide" will cause some to question the Holocaust's validity.

-Some need to justify their positions as genocide scholars, a relatively new field of study and one that doesn't call for the promulgation of all these genocide centers, the Armenian "Genocide" is simply too hard to let go.

-Most cynically, they are being sponsored by the deep pocketed Armenians and they are under "orders". Some serve as spokesman and make cash on the side by giving talks on the "Armenian Genocide".

-Also, there is no chance for a "genocide scholar" to reject what others accept. They all have to "agree" on the issue as a body.

-Blindly holding on to the biased Morgenthau, Bryce missionary "reports" of pro-Armenian New York Times as "evidence" does not define a true scholar. A true scholar must be objective, neutral and a honest truth seeker.

Resolutions are worthless and have no legal meaning. These "Resolutions" merely express the thoughts of the officials who vote for them. The sneaky Armenian plan all these years has been to get these resolutions passed, just so they can say "the world agrees with us".

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Another well known boot-licker of the fascist Armenian Diaspora,

Prof. Colin Tatz, "genocide scholar", Australian National University, November 2008, upon receiving ANCA, Armenian National Committee's Armenian Friendship Award.

We congratulate Prof. Tatz.He has been instrumental in the "advancement of the Armenian cause" in Australia, and our community’s distinguished "partnership" with him is deserving of this and many honours.

(Mr. Varant Meguerditchian, Armenian National Committee)

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Unarmed, innocent Armenians, genocide victims.

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More examples of the unarmed, innocent genocide victims, the Armenians.

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More examples of Armenian "self defence".

"The telegraph dated 5th of November, 1914 sent by Francois George Picot and French Middle Ambassador Defrance of Egypt stated that Greece accepted to send 15.000 rifles and 2 million bullets to the volunteer legions in Syria and in a possible intervention of France there are 30.000-35.000 Armenian volunteers ready and avaliable to side with France in the region."

(Guerre Mondiale Turquie, Volume 867, XCIII-Document 237, Legion d'Orient, 1914-1918)



The report sent by the French Admiral in Syrian shore to the British military headquarters in Egypt indicated that the riot in Cilicia had lasted for over one month as of 28th May, 1915 and a total of 300 Turkish gendarmes had been killed.

(UK Archives, 157-691-8, 28th of April 1915, Cairo)



"By the 15th of last October, 26.000 Turkish Armenians had taken the field against their ancient overlords, and 15.000 more were drilling in Tblisi, these groups being entirely distinct from the 75.000 Russian Armenians that had already been welded into the Tsar's army. Fully, 2.800 of these Turkish Armenians had been contributed by the Armenian colony in the United States."

(15th of December, 1915, The New York Times, Gregory Mason)

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"Immediately after the war, when events and memories were fresh, Armenians had no intention to provide high casualty figures or genocidal motivations for their deaths. Their objective was statehood. Armenians were encouraged by the self-determination concept in President Woodrow Wilson's Fourteen Points. Armenian leaders pointed to their military contribution to defeating the Ottomans and population figures that would sustain an Armenian nation. When their quest for statehood ship-wrecked on the Treaty of Lausanne and annexation by the Soviet Union in 1921, Armenians revised their soundtrack to endorse a contrived genocide thesis. Armenians increased the number of deaths. They also altered their story line from having died as belligerents against the Turks to having perished like unarmed helpless lambs. After statehood was lost, Armenians turned to their genocide playbook which exploited Christian bigotries and contempt for Ottoman Muslims. They remembered earlier successful anti-Ottoman propaganda.

Almost a century later, the number of deaths they assert changes between 1.5-2 million. But the best contemporary estimates by Armenians or their sympathizers were 300.000-750.000, compared with the 2.4 million Ottoman Muslim deaths in Anatolia. From 280.000-750.000, Armenians initially raised their death count to 800.000 to test the credibility waters. It passed muster with uninformed politicians easily influenced by campaign contributions and voting clout. Armenians then jumped the number to 1.5 million, and then 1.8 million by Armenian historian Kevork Aslan. For the last decades, an Armenian majority seems to have settled on the 1.5 million death plateau. They are now testing the waters at 2.5-3 million killed as their chances for a congressional genocide resolution recede. Armenian genocide allegations are extremely baseless. During Reagen's presidency in 1981, the subject was investigated by the White House and the Armenian allegations were proven to be false with archive documents."

(Bruce Fein, Former US President Ronald Reagen's Advisor)

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Concrete evidences on massacres of defenceless Turkish civilians are surfacing one by one since 1986.The discovery of the mass grave belonging to 300 Turks in Oba, a village in Igdir-Turkey, was followed by the excavations of 9 other mass graves found in Erzurum, Kars, Van and Igdir. In these mass graves, a total of 2300 skeletons that belong to Turks were discovered.The findings proved that Armenians did not discriminate between the children, women, the young and the old, they were all tortured and killed. The burnt skulls unearthed from the mass graves were screaming the truth out to the world.The findings of pieces from the Quran and cigarette cases with the star and crescent emblem and rosary beads disclosed every detail of these attrocities and prove that these murdered people were Turks. These mass graves and all their findings document how the Armenians massacred thousands of Turks in the region between 1918-1920.The historical documents in the archives and testimonies of eye witness accounts confirmed the events and are enough to expose the scale of the massacres.

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Turkey tries to have genocide history rewritten
INDEPENDENT
by ROBERT FISK
The shocking pictures that Turkey is trying to stop us from seeing

Not content with denying the truth of the Armenian Holocaust of 1915,
Turkish officials are now trying to undermine the veracity of the
photographic evidence of the genocide that killed a million and a half
Armenians during the First World War. Following a letter of complaint from
the Turkish embassy in London this week, the Hulton Getty picture library
has withdrawn three famous photographs of slaughtered Armenians from its
website, preventing their use by the media.

One of the pictures - a now-famous image of an Armenian girl and two small
children lying dead amid garbage at the height of the genocide - was taken
by the German photographer Armin Wegner and has been regularly distributed
by Hulton to newspapers for many years. But a letter from a Turkish
embassy official in London - who signed his name only as "Korkmazhaktanir"
- objected to the picture's caption, which stated that the dead were
victims of the Turkish massacres. The dead, according to the Turkish
official, had obviously only "starved" to death.

This extraordinary argument - which would presuppose that Jews starved to
death by the Nazis in the Second World War could not be counted victims of
the Jewish Holocaust - did not impress Hulton's general manager, Mathew
Butson. "This picture was used recently by both The Independent and The
Times and the key word the Turks objected to in our caption was
'massacred'," he says. "We always routinely examine such complaints and
temporarily withdrew these images from our files. But we believe the
information in our caption is correct.

"The argument that these Armenians weren't 'massacred' just because they
were starved is not acceptable. The Turkish letter went on about how
starving can't be part of a massacre. I think that because of their application to join
the EU, the Turks want to 'clean' their history - but this isn't the way to do it."

The Turkish government has been mounting an increasingly expensive
lobbying campaign to deny the fact of the Armenian Holocaust, funding
academic chairs at American universities - in which professors invariably
questioned the details of the genocide - and threatening economic boycotts
against European countries that acknowledge the Armenian massacres. When
President Jacques Chirac last month publicly accepted the genocide as
fact, Turkey cancelled arms and construction contracts with France worth
millions of pounds.

Claiming that the Armenians died in "civil unrest" and that the Armenian
population supported Turkey's First World War enemies, the present Turkish
government has consistently denied eyewitness evidence at the time -
including that of US diplomats and missionaries - that the genocide was
organised and carried out on the specific orders of Ottoman Turkey's
rulers. Planning his extermination of European Jewry in the 20th century's
second Holocaust, Hitler asked his generals: "Who now remembers the
Armenians?"

Turkey's embassies abroad have seized every opportunity to prove Hitler's
question valid. The mass execution by firing squads of tens of thousands
of Armenian men and the starvation, rape and killing of equal numbers of
women and children during the mass deportations to the deserts in 1915
have no place in Turkish history books. And, so far as the Turks are
concerned, no place in anyone else's history books.

During its research, however, Hulton concluded that it did not hold the
copyright to the three photographs taken - at great personal risk - by
Wegner in 1915 and 1916. Mr Butson now says that they belong to an
Armenian historical archive in Germany, a fact confirmed by Tessa Hofmann
of the Centre for Documantation and Information on Armenia in Berlin - who
says that all three photographs were taken by Wegner and show victims of
the Armenian genocide. "The rights to these photos are owned by the
Schiller Literary National Archive in Marbach, here in Germany," she says.

"They hold items from the Wegner estate and gave us the rights to copies
of photographs that relate to the Armenian genocide, courtesy of Wegner's
second wife, who is still alive and now lives in Israel."

According to Mrs Hofmann, Wegner - although under strict Turkish
instructions to take no pictures - photographed the dead Armenians during
and after visits to Turkish concentration camps in the Syrian desert near
Aleppo. "We cannot be sure the picture of the three bodies is of a mother
and her two children - only that it is a girl and two children. But the
pictures are perfectly genuine. In his diary, Armin records seeing all
these bodies of starved Armenians around the camps and of taking their
photograph. He wrote that many of the bodies had become 'petrified', stiff
and unchanging after death."

Ironically, the first copy of the photograph of the three dead Armenians
traced by The Independent comes from an American journal also called The
Independent and was published on 18 October, 1915. The caption to the
picture printed then states that "these victims of Turkish cruelty were
driven out to suffer extremes of hunger and hardship in their wanderings
through the desert where so many thousands like them also died. Shown here
is a mother and her two children found in the desert." The accompanying
article begins: "The most extensive, the most atrocious of religious
massacres which the world has seen for centuries is now being perpetrated
in Turkey..." In fact, it was not until the end of the First World War
that the full extent of the Armenian Holocaust - up to a million and a
half murdered by the Ottoman Turkish regime - became clear.

Mrs Hofmann says she is ready to give permission for newspapers to use the
Wegner photographs of the genocide. (Her e-mail address is
tessah@d-armenier.de and her centre is principally involved in the
identification of Wegner's Armenian photographs).

It wasn't his intention, but Mr Korkmazhaktanir's letter to Hulton may
have helped to disseminate this invaluable photographic evidence of the
Armenian Holocaust even further.