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    Quote Originally Posted by Vožd View Post
    Thanks to lack of anything Dinaric
    So true

    Dinaric Alps = Afghanistan of Europe


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    Quote Originally Posted by Feiichy View Post
    So true

    Dinaric Alps = Afghanistan of Europe

    Why self hate? We would be nothing without Dinaric in every sense.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Pribislav View Post
    Alija was 1/4 Turkish, his grandmother was Turkish. His paternal grandfather Alija served army in Uskudar and brought his grandmother from there.
    Older surname of Izetbegovići was Jahić. They took surname Izetbegović when they moved in Bosnia. Surname of Izetbegovići/Jahići before islamization was Živković, they were lower Serbian nobility in Smederevo.

    Ancestors of Lepa Brena moved to Brčko in Bosnia from Golubovci near Podgorica in Montenegro in 1879.
    Muslim Serb Alija Izetbegović was creator of Bosniak nation and he brought pan-Islamic ideas among Bosniaks.

    Bosniak general from war in 1990s Atif Dudaković said that his ancestors moved to Bosnia from Krupanj in western Serbia in 19th century.
    Serbs from eastern Bosnia often call Bosniaks from Podrinje in eastern Bosnia "Užice Muslims" because most of them are descedants of Muslims from Užice and surrounding places in western Serbia, their ancestors arrived to Bosnia in 1860s.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Moje ime View Post
    Why self hate? We would be nothing without Dinaric in every sense.
    It's rather Pride. Dinaric people are indestructible. And they are superior exactly because it is such a harsh place to live.
    Harsh places produce strong people, and natural selection eliminated physically and intelectually weaker ones unlike in rest of Europe.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Moje ime View Post
    Why self hate? We would be nothing without Dinaric in every sense.
    #Dinaric Taliban Pride 4 life baby

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    Quote Originally Posted by Vožd View Post
    Vlach*
    Among Sandžakian Muslims still exist some older people who know Albandnian language. There is no evidences that Sandžakian Muslim ever spoke some vulgar Latin language.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Pribislav View Post
    Among Sandžakian Muslims still exist some older people who know Albandnian language. There is no evidences that Sandžakian Muslim ever spoke some vulgar Latin language.
    You want say that Albanians have no Vlach origin at all?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Vožd View Post
    You want say that Albanians have no Vlach origin at all?
    Vlach is wide term. Slavs called all Latin speaking Balkanites Vlachs. But vast majority of Latin speaking Balkanites never call themselves Vlachs. Romanians are Romani, Vlachs from eastern Serbia are originally Rumani, Aromanians are Armani and Ramani, and Istro-Romanians are originally Rumeri. Only Latin speaking group in Balkan which use term Vlachs were Megleno-Vlachs. Vlach of Eastern Serbia adopted name Vlachs from Serbs recently, their original name is Rumani.
    Except Slavic term for Latin speaking Balkanites in the medieval Serbia existed vlach sheperd caste whose members were ethnic Serbs. In early Ottoman time Vlach caste/socio-political status continued to exist in western and central Balkan.

    Albanians have so called Vlach input, but mostly Tosk Albanians. A lot of Aromanians in southern Albania were assimilatted by Albanians in the last few centuries.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Pribislav View Post
    Vlach is wider term. Slavs called all Latin speaking Balkanites Vlachs. But vast majority of Latin speaking Balkanites never call themselves Vlachs. Romanians are Romani, Vlachs from eastern Serbia are originally Rumani, Aromanians are Armani and Ramani, and Istro-Romanians are originally Rumeri. Only Latin speaking group in Balkan which use term Vlachs were Megleno-Vlachs. Vlach of Eastern Serbia adopted name Vlachs from Serbd recently, their original name is Rumani.
    Except Slavic term for Latin speaking Balkanites in the medieval Serbia existed vlach sheperd caste whosr members were ethnic Serbs. In early Ottoman time Vlach caste/socio-political status continued to exist in western and central Balkan.

    Albanians have so called Vlach input, but mostly Tosk Albanians. A lot of Aromanians in southern Albania were assimilatted by Albanians in the last few centuries.
    Ghegs also asimilated Vlachs.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Vožd View Post
    Ghegs also asimilated Vlachs.
    For Kuči and Klimenti/Kelmendi tribes there are evidences that they were bilingual, they spoke Serbian and Albanian in the same time. Also they had mixed Serbian/Slavic and Albanian names. That was in 15th and 16th century.

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