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    Quote Originally Posted by The King, I am View Post
    OH FUCK OFF YOU PUNJABI TURD
    STOP MAKING THESE RUBBISH ANTI-WHITE THREADS AND GO FUCK YOURSELF



    we all know you made 2 sockpuppets, one as a punjabi and another as a Brit, stop being such a cowardly shit


    How is this anti-white? only a moron will agree


    In fact this is kicking the ass of any nordicist who have these delusional theories and claims of themselves.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ButlerKing View Post
    Bullshit no they don't

    Everyone with blue eyes gets them from same source. Genetically we can look and see this is so. You just post same retarded trollc rap over and over.
    Out Of Africa Theory is a lie.
    http://www.theapricity.com/forum/sho...88#post3431588
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    No not entirely. Not every who has blonde hair is Nordic FYI....I mean these in terms of Europeans. However Blonde Hair, or sometimes called light brown is a neanderthall trait.

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    its even well know some groups of africans and asians actually have high percent of neanderthall DNA. but caucasians have the most.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jaxman View Post
    All non-Africans alive today have some Neanderthal DNA. Actually even most Africans do as well but in much smaller amounts than non-Africans. East Asians apparently have a bit more Neanderthal DNA than Europeans on the whole.

    http://www.reuters.com/article/2014/...A0S1RX20140129
    I think we have more but yes there are pockets of Asians in Asia who have high levels of Neanderthal DNA.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Melonhead View Post
    Everyone with blue eyes gets them from same source. Genetically we can look and see this is so. You just post same retarded trollc rap over and over.
    I have always wondered if the blue eye genetic mutation originally appeared in only one single individual?

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    epic thread .......

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    Quote Originally Posted by ButlerKing View Post
    You posted pictures of black dress hmong who don't have these mutations

    Genetic shows there's not one single percentage of West Eurasian DNA or haplogroup in Hmong


    Blonde hair and brown hair are common in Hmongs that lives on the isolated mountains.







    This one is Mongol

    I would like in that case to see studies done only on these Hmong Highlanders you mention.
    Btw regarding the pic you posted look what is written below the pic you posted
    http://robertlindsay.wordpress.com/2...t-asian-types/
    But what is the point of showing pics of blond non-Europeans which I can count on fingers of one hand and whose source is from butthurtoids from asiafinest.com

    As do every Caucasoid and it's mostly West Asian. European admixture is almost non-existant.
    Everything but European ha Butler

    But yet even South Indian with less 0% West Eurasian ancestry can look like this

    But what is with your obsession about Albinos. Albinism is a disorder common in all species on the Earth.
    White Albinos also look off. If they have children with normal people the offspring wouldn't inherit the disorder. If
    two people who carry genetically Albinism traits have children the child may or may not inherit Albinism traits. But yes two Albino will always have an Albino child. Regarding the blonde and green eyed Indian you posted in OP, he is from Tamil Nadu, the most southern parts of India. Now compare him and the girls (non-Albino ones) you posted with that Albino boy. Wouldn't you say it is a fucking coincidence that he looks way different than the girls you posted. As I have shown you there is some West Eurasian ancestry in South Indian and it is not strange for some atypical people popping here and there.

    Spoiler!


    Do you know why South Asian component is on PCA plot of genetic distances on Dodecad and Eurogenes located roughly between Oceania and Europe? It is so because it is an ancestreal mix of Australoids and Europeans

    By almost every recent paper it shows South Amerindians are pure.
    South Amerindians are pure where as North Amerindians are not.
    What are you trying to attribute with this? that every light eyes/light hair are attributed to west Western of North European ancestry when in reality it is just a mutation from the climate. The first human didn't have blonde hair.
    What papers? I have a feeling you speak from your ass. They analyzed 25000 year old remaines and Chile was reached by a man 14500 years ago and 3 months later (by every recent papers) you like saw several new papers already.

    It is a little more complex than a mutation, but of course it is a mutation, but there are some mutations in Europeans (northern especially) associated with light hair and the these mutations are found in other distant populations, but are not associated with light hair with them, but with something else, usually light skin. Some mutations seem to be unique and should always lead to a blond or red or brown hair and on a molecular level scientists explain mechanisms through which production/or lack of melanin light hair arise (where the main point it triggering cAMP-dependent pathway the most pivotal thing). And even though everything seems fine and even though these populations possess mutations which trigger cAMP they are still not associated with red hair and scientists still try to understand why. So it is harder than you think. Many population today have developed some mutations on say MC1R receptor, but are not associated with light hair as in Europeans, but usually with UV protection too. Skin, eye and hair color mutations and any other mutations scientists today usually try to pinpoint their origin to certain locations. This will be similar to haplogroup tracking. Some European haplogroups may be present in some non-European people because they have their own subclade associated with them which mutated there. But since mutations normally occur over time I bet the source distant or recent in time will always be from a (north) European source because having light features besides skin seems more complex than you think and Europeans sure left their trace everywhere.


    But brown Punjabi scum let me get on something else. You are obviously not European. You always try to show how Europeans are mixed while on the other hand trying to show that some people are simply pure. Through various means including this thread you simply try to make Europeans feel less special in every way which tells me you are one butthurt little boy.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Melonhead View Post
    Everyone with blue eyes gets them from same source. Genetically we can look and see this is so. You just post same retarded trollc rap over and over.
    What a pathetic answer. There are Bantu tribes isolated in some part of Africa with 100% Sub-Saharan autosomal and 100% Sub-Saharan 100% and still have blue eyes.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Solin View Post

    I would like in that case to see studies done only on these Hmong Highlanders you mention.
    Btw regarding the pic you posted look what is written below the pic you posted
    http://robertlindsay.wordpress.com/2...t-asian-types/
    But what is the point of showing pics of blond non-Europeans which I can count on fingers of one hand and whose source is from butthurtoids from asiafinest.com

    Lol why the hell are you using sources from Robert lindsay the biggest amateur anthropologist of all time.

    He is the same moron that claim that Papuans are caucasoid people who look black and nappy hair, the same moron who claimed a mixture of Australoid and Mongoloid produce caucasoid features. The same moron who made racist claims about Dravidians being niggers and indo-aryan theories exist, the same moron who claimed Kazakhs are only 30% Mongoloid, the same moron who thinks all Caucasoids are white but with different skin color. The same moron who used a picture of a Japanese actress with caucasian appearance and claimed she had heavy Ainu ancestry but than someone said she was actually half french/half Japanese and indeed she was. And now claimed the blonde hmong picture have origins from Tarim basin ? coming out of his ass like a typical moron

    I mean how many times have this guys blocked someone for lecturing his stupid ass? He always removed comments that he doesn't like. He's the worst of all when it comes to these type of stuff. He is a liar, bad mouth, amateur.


    Y-DNA of Hmong are all 100% Mongoloid




    mtDNA of Hmong are all 100% Mongoloid

    Genetic Structure of Hmong-Mien Speaking Populations in East Asia as Revealed by mtDNA Lineages



    Abstract

    Hmong-Mien (H-M) is a major language family in East Asia, and its speakers distribute primarily in southern China and Southeast Asia. To date, genetic studies on H-M speaking populations are virtually absent in the literature. In this report, we present the results of an analysis of genetic variations in the mitochondrial DNA (mtDNA) hypervariable segment 1 (HVS1) region and diagnostic variants in the coding regions in 537 individuals sampled from 17 H-M populations across East Asia. The analysis showed that the haplogroups that are predominant in southern East Asia, including B, R9, N9a, and M7, account for 63% (ranging from 45% to 90%) of mtDNAs in H-M populations. Furthermore, analysis of molecular variance (AMOVA), phylogenetic tree analysis, and principal component (PC) analysis demonstrate closer relatedness between H-M and other southern East Asians, suggesting a general southern origin of maternal lineages in the H-M populations. The estimated ages of the mtDNA lineages that are specific to H-M coincide with those based on archeological cultures that have been associated with H-M. Analysis of genetic distance and phylogenetic tree indicated some extent of difference between the Hmong and the Mien populations. Together with the higher frequency of north-dominating lineages observed in the Hmong people, our results indicate that the Hmong populations had experienced more contact with the northern East Asians, a finding consistent with historical evidence. Moreover, our data defined some new (sub-)haplogroups (A6, B4e, B4f, C5, F1a1, F1a1a, and R9c), which will direct further efforts to improve the phylogeny of East Asian mtDNAs.

    Hmong autosomal DNA are 100% Mongoloid



    Everything but European ha Butler

    South Indians have west Asian DNA not European.

    Yeah some South Indians do have some west Eurasian DNA but most aboriginal South Indian do not. But than even most Spaniards and Greeks who are pure west Eurasians who have mostly European DNA with some West Asian admixture don't even have the eye or hair color that Indian kid had.





    But what is with your obsession about Albinos. Albinism is a disorder common in all species on the Earth.
    White Albinos also look off. If they have children with normal people the offspring wouldn't inherit the disorder. If
    two people who carry genetically Albinism traits have children the child may or may not inherit Albinism traits. But yes two Albino will always have an Albino child. Regarding the blonde and green eyed Indian you posted in OP, he is from Tamil Nadu, the most southern parts of India. Now compare him and the girls (non-Albino ones) you posted with that Albino boy. Wouldn't you say it is a fucking coincidence that he looks way different than the girls you posted. As I have shown you there is some West Eurasian ancestry in South Indian and it is not strange for some atypical people popping here and there.
    Exactly so one cannot claim that blue eyes, blonde hair, green eyes, red hair, or any eye and hair color is a european heritage.



    There is some European ancestry even in South Indians. The first image is from peer reviewed papers.


    PleaseWhat is considered European here is actually west Asian components. Component that is found in 50-90% in modern day Caucasus Armenians, Georgians, Persians, Kurds ( the very same people you guys denied as White/European ). found in all of Europe in small percentages except the Greeks and Southern Italians from 20-30%

    This is what pisses me off. Sometimes they claimed West Asian as European but sometimes they don't. They claim all Europeans DNA, West Asian, Southwest Asian as European. What is the point of claiming West Asian and Southwest Asian as European when they deny Saudi Arabs, Kurds, Persians, Armenians, Iraqi as white.


    I mean come on haven't you noticed the flaws in your graph

    It shows the druze and bendouin being 90% European, and they are some of the most semetic faces and brown skin looking people I've ever seen.

    They look about as white as a gypsy. Unless Gypsies are considered European I mean they do have 70% West Eurasian ancestry and they have more real European DNA (from Europeans) than any of these groups although the rest of their admixture are from the north indian

    Druze people





    Bendouins people






    Here is a better explained DNA chart.



    The following image is also from a peer-review paper.

    Authors tried to show recent admix in South Africans during East Indian trade so they analyzed Indian genetics at first[/spoiler]

    Do you know why South Asian component is on PCA plot of genetic distances on Dodecad and Eurogenes located roughly between Oceania and Europe? It is so because it is an ancestreal mix of Australoids and Europeans
    LOL sure. That would only happen if you west Asian DNA as European but than why did 9/10 of the members died Armenians as European or West Asian is also European?

    And besides almost every west Eurasian ancestry in South Indian came from west Asian DNA but than most South Indian aboriginals have 0% WEST EURASIAN DNA.











    What papers? I have a feeling you speak from your ass. They analyzed 25000 year old remaines and Chile was reached by a man 14500 years ago and 3 months later (by every recent papers) you like saw several new papers already.

    It is a little more complex than a mutation, but of course it is a mutation, but there are some mutations in Europeans (northern especially) associated with light hair and the these mutations are found in other distant populations, but are not associated with light hair with them, but with something else, usually light skin. Some mutations seem to be unique and should always lead to a blond or red or brown hair and on a molecular level scientists explain mechanisms through which production/or lack of melanin light hair arise (where the main point it triggering cAMP-dependent pathway the most pivotal thing). And even though everything seems fine and even though these populations possess mutations which trigger cAMP they are still not associated with red hair and scientists still try to understand why. So it is harder than you think. Many population today have developed some mutations on say MC1R receptor, but are not associated with light hair as in Europeans, but usually with UV protection too. Skin, eye and hair color mutations and any other mutations scientists today usually try to pinpoint their origin to certain locations. This will be similar to haplogroup tracking. Some European haplogroups may be present in some non-European people because they have their own subclade associated with them which mutated there. But since mutations normally occur over time I bet the source distant or recent in time will always be from a (north) European source because having light features besides skin seems more complex than you think and Europeans sure left their trace everywhere.
    Kennewick man have no genetic relation with Caucasoid or west Eurasian and neither did Luzia.

    Most Amerindian from South America are pure or almost pure.

    Purple is Amerindian DNA found highest in South American Indians

    Red is Siberian DNA found highest in Eskimo, Alaskans, Inuits





    But brown Punjabi scum let me get on something else. You are obviously not European. You always try to show how Europeans are mixed while on the other hand trying to show that some people are simply pure. Through various means including this thread you simply try to make Europeans feel less special in every way which tells me you are one butthurt little boy.
    Why are you claiming me a brown punjabi scum. Did I say I was Punjabi? Europe it's just as mix as any continent. PROVE TO ME EUROPEANS ARE PURE? NONE. So what is white and what is not white it's not for anyone to decide.


    South east Europe have West Asian ( Middle eastern/Caucasus DNA),

    South west Europe have North African DNA ( predominately North African with SSA admixtures )

    North Europe have Uralic/Mongoloid Siberian admixture

    East Europe have Uralic/Turkic/Mongoloid Siberian admixture.

    West Europe have West Asian and Gedrosian DNA aswell.
    Last edited by ButlerKing; 02-25-2014 at 05:28 PM.

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