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    Quote Originally Posted by Hweinlant View Post
    Russia will not attack. Ukraine is no Georgia. It's a country of 45 million people. There are millions of Ukrainians at Russia and quite obviously millions of Russians at Ukraine. Attack on Ukraine means automatic de-stabilization of Russia.
    If Russia will attack at least 1/3 of current Ukraine will join the forces with it. And together they will wipe out those Bandera's worshipers for at least another 50-60 years.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Hweinlant View Post
    Russia will not attack. Ukraine is no Georgia. It's a country of 45 million people. There are millions of Ukrainians at Russia and quite obviously millions of Russians at Ukraine. Attack on Ukraine means automatic de-stabilization of Russia.
    But they believe Ukrainian EU membership means automatic de-stabilization of Russia, they want to orchestrate it so that they get Crimea and Donetsk.
    Expect attacks on Russian nationals, it was good luck there was a drill going on the same time just next door.
    If Putin can twist some excuse to go in that US or NATO cant really be against, they went to Afganistan, he is considered a hero by many Russians.

    Everyone is still buying Russian gas after Georgia, if all works well for Russia they will gain a huge geopolitical win, they are tempted about the prospect for sure.

    Would be good if EU breaks up on this crisis, I will send Putin a thank you card.
    "If the enemy is not attacking from the East it has flanked." Finnish proverb


    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Xu8D9GaQwIs

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    Quote Originally Posted by Sarmatian View Post
    If Russia will attack at least 1/3 of current Ukraine will join the forces with it. And together they will wipe out those Bandera's worshipers for at least another 50-60 years.
    Russia would very likely take over Ukraine in matter of weeks/days in current turmoil. The thing just is that the de-stabilization of Russia would start immediately and only get worse during the occupation. The War would not stay inside Ukrainian borders, it would quickly spread to Russia as well. Your much loathed "Banderaists" would be blowing up Russian gas delivery network left and right. Russian economy would go through major meltdown, not only because of disruptions on gas delivery but also because occupation is extremely expensive. West would pull back all investments from Russia (risk to do business too high). Outcome of any Russian invasion would make people remember the economical situation of 1990's as the good old days. Actually the best option for Russia is that EU will play ball and take part of the "Operation Save Ukrainian Economy From Total Collapse". Russia is the most exposed country that collapse. It's guaranteed to drag Russia down for atleast decade.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Hweinlant View Post
    Russia would very likely take over Ukraine in matter of weeks/days in current turmoil. The thing just is that the de-stabilization of Russia would start immediately and only get worse during the occupation. The War would not stay inside Ukrainian borders, it would quickly spread to Russia as well. Your much loathed "Banderaists" would be blowing up Russian gas delivery network left and right. Russian economy would go through major meltdown, not only because of disruptions on gas delivery but also because occupation is extremely expensive. West would pull back all investments from Russia (risk to do business too high). Outcome of any Russian invasion would make people remember the economical situation of 1990's as the good old days. Actually the best option for Russia is that EU will play ball and take part of the "Operation Save Ukrainian Economy From Total Collapse". Russia is the most exposed country that collapse. It's guaranteed to drag Russia down for atleast decade.
    how is it guaranteed to drag them down for a decade ? don't they have like $600b in savings and cant they just recapitalize the banks if it becomes a necessity ?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Silesian View Post
    they are idiots, if ukrainian fascists come to power they will be completely Ukrainianized. Crimea could be an own independent state with tatarian language as an official one. But these twats are too russophobic to get it, they rather would want to die with russians then life

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ukko View Post
    Putin orders surprise drills in two military districts

    Russian President Vladimir Putin instructed the Defence Ministry to hold surprise military exercises to check combat readiness of armed forces in Western and Central Military Districts

    http://en.itar-tass.com/russia/721038
    That is the kind of escalation of tensions that was discussed about earlier.
    The Western District includes the Baltic fleet and the Pskov division. One gets the impression that RF plans to attack Crimea through Estonia and Latvia. Or even via the Barents Sea and Svalbard.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ukko View Post
    Its part of the doctrine to attack from drills, you cant be sure if it is a bluff, one day it isnt.
    Russia has had that doctrine since before WWII, at least.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Acquisitor View Post
    I can predict what they will show on vesti.ru today, some general with a wide face giving a speech about his troops being ready to serve the motherland and especially being ready for any situation
    The choice of districts is too obvious.
    RF should have chosen Chukotka.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Pure ja View Post
    That is the kind of escalation of tensions that was discussed about earlier.
    The Western District includes the Baltic fleet and the Pskov division. One gets the impression that RF plans to attack Crimea through Estonia and Latvia. Or even via the Barents Sea and Svalbard.
    They are just keeping NATO in check so they are free to act in the Ukrainian theater if needed, but interesting for analysis purpose for us.
    "If the enemy is not attacking from the East it has flanked." Finnish proverb


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