Many Ukrainians Want Russia To Invade

[RandoBloom]

Yes, because I choose to. I can avoid them if I think it's needed.

Lets see about that

[Albion]

So? What is wrong with being a Russia lover and living in a London flat? What is wrong with you?

You should live in Moscow, that's what's wrong.

I would also except that putin could give japan all 4 kuril islands to win japans strong support. With new territories like crimea it wouldnt be such a lose for russian public perception. Western and Russian trade wars would hugely damage white folks and benefit only Asians.

I don't think Japan would suddenly switch sides and become best friends with Russia whilst Russia is allied with China and the US is seen as protection against China.

Russia and China can bring the US to it's knees without firing a shot. The largest foreign holder of U.S. debt is China, which owns more about $1.2 trillion in bills, notes and bonds, according to the US Treasury.

And they'd sacrifice themselves to do that, why?

this is what i was saying since years and it becomes now needed more than ever. People criticisize putin for kind all of BS, but what Putin should be really criticized for is his germanophillia and Pro European policy instead moving closer to asia.

Like you used to, former Germanophile?

The EU is the largest consumer of Chinese goods

They're at a similar level. China just taking out 18% of its exports and 5% of it's GDP from exports to the US wouldn't exactly be a good thing and it'd likely bring about a global economic crisis that would drag even China into recession.
You can't just cut off the world's largest economies and expect to continue as usual. Russia is different, it's not the US, EU or China.

[RussiaPrussia]

I don't think Japan would suddenly switch sides and become best friends with Russia whilst Russia is allied with China and the US is seen as protection against China.

like they are importing iranian oil?

[Albion]

So today we have areas of Ukraine such as Tavria (Crimea), Ekaterinoslav and Kharkiv as very pro-Russian due to being actually Russian provinces until 1917. Then we have Chernigov, Poltava, Kiev and somewhat Kherson as original Ukrainian territories with mixed moderate attitude towards Russia. And the last are mostly radical anti-Russian Western provinces due to them being largerly Polish-Slovak-Ukrainian mix. All this mix of such a different people was created by Stalin in the first half of 20th century. Such a recent formation have no chance for any sort of unity, it's an artificial construct that should've never existed.

About these arguments about Ukrainian ethnogenesis - I don't see why it matters when Ukrainian identity emerged. They see themselves as Ukrainians today and have existed for 100 years at least, who are we to tell them that they belong with Russia?

[Methmatician]

Yes, because I choose to. I can avoid them if I think it's needed.

I can also avoid prosecution for committing a serious crime if I really wanted to. That doesn't make me a free man though.

[Sarmatian]

About these arguments about Ukrainian ethnogenesis - I don't see why it matters when Ukrainian identity emerged. They see themselves as Ukrainians today and have existed for 100 years at least, who are we to tell them that they belong with Russia?

Your point is valid, if they see themselves as Ukrainians it's all fine. But quite a number of them identify themselves as ethnic Russians living in Ukraine. Also those that actually identify themselves as Ukrainians are quite a diverse bunch with very different visions on what Ukrainian really is and what Ukraine should be. And diversity is so extreme in some cases that these people are ready to kill each other. The independent Ukraine as we know it today have never existed before so ethnogenesis of Ukrainians is at the very early stage now. Because of that things can get very violent.

[lady]

Dont forget that the scenario with "democratic revolution" was worked out for Russia. Ask yourself now, why it didn't go there but in Ukraine well.

[Manifest Destiny]

Bullshit. Did you even read the article? Ignorant Americans like you shouldn't comment on European affairs.



Independence? The current regime is illegitimate, and was brought about by a minority extremists in western Ukraine. Not even elected.

Your own article says that Russian lies and fearmongering are at least partially responsible for some Ukrainians wanting a Russian invasion...