If Iran becomes different independent states

**StonyArabia** · 03-02-2014, 08:27 PM

Very interesting map, though I doubt this happen. Since the only groups that do want independence are the Ahwazi and Arab islanders, the Kurds, and the Baloch. As for the other groups they see more or less pro-Iranian in regards to many Azeris, and the Qashakis are quite Persianized themselves. I do believe it would be nice if they give autonomy for the Arab islanders or have them have a referendum if they want to be with Iran or join the UAE. The Ahwazis should get autonomy, since their independence although preferred might change things in this region.

**Graine** · 03-02-2014, 08:34 PM

There is no ''arabistan''. Half of Khuzestan is LURS bakhtiari, not arab

**Hanibalas Lekteris** · 03-02-2014, 08:37 PM

Not happening.

**StonyArabia** · 03-02-2014, 08:37 PM

Originally Posted by Graine

There is no ''arabistan''. Half of Khuzestan is LURS bakhtiari, not arab

This completely wrong it's well known when the Arabistan Emirate was annexed in 1925, it was Persianized by bringing in Persian/Iranic people in the region. A process that continues to this day. This also true of the Arab islands which Iran annexed in 1971, but in the islands most of the Persian migration began in the 1990's.

**Anglojew** · 03-02-2014, 08:42 PM

Very interesting. Should happen.

**Graine** · 03-02-2014, 08:46 PM

Originally Posted by Nabatea1

This completely wrong it's well known when the Arabistan Emirate was annexed in 1925, it was Persianized by bringing in Persian/Iranic people in the region. A process that continues to this day. This also true of the Arab islands which Iran annexed in 1971, but in the islands most of the Persian migration began in the 1990's.

Only the western part of Khuzestan was known as ''Arabistan'' emirate. The eastern part of Khuzestan has always been Bakhtiari Lurs and was governed by Bakhtiari Lurs khans.

In the two decades before 1925, although nominally part of Persian territory, the western part of Khuzestan functioned for many years effectively as an autonomous emirate known as "Arabistan". The eastern part of Khuzestan was governed by Bakhtiari-Lurs khans.

Bakhtiari Lurs aren't Persians. The eastern part of Khuzestan (former ''Arabistan'') was Persianized by Persian immigrants from different parts of Iran. The eastern part of Khuzestan has always been Bakhtiari Lurs. Only the western part of Khuzestan was ''Arabistan'' emirate.

**DeaththeKid** · 03-02-2014, 08:47 PM

The reason Iran is together is because of geography it conforms almost perfectly to the Iranian plateau

**StonyArabia** · 03-02-2014, 09:33 PM

Originally Posted by Graine

Only the western part of Khuzestan was known as ''Arabistan'' emirate. The eastern part of Khuzestan has always been Bakhtiari Lurs and was governed by Bakhtiari Lurs khans.

Any proof or historical record of this, prior to 1925

Originally Posted by Graine

Bakhtiari Lurs aren't Persians. The eastern part of Khuzestan (former ''Arabistan'') was Persianized by Persian immigrants from different parts of Iran. The eastern part of Khuzestan has always been Bakhtiari Lurs. Only the western part of Khuzestan was ''Arabistan'' emirate.

Well this could be true, in the regards to Ahwaz/Arabistan, but this is certainly not true to the Arab islands, which have always been Arabian since always.

**StonyArabia** · 03-03-2014, 03:18 AM

Originally Posted by Anglojew

Very interesting. Should happen.

I would like the islands to be in Arab hands, the Iranians never belonged to these islands, but they took them in 1971. They have tried ever since to assimilate the Arab islanders who are of Bedouin stock and are Sunni Muslims, but it has so far not worked. They also banned the traditional dresses and forced them into Westernized clothing and to be part of a Persian cultural element, this did not work out to well. At times there is ethnic tensions between the native Arabs and the Persian migrants. As for Ahwaz I think they should get autonomy, and if they want independence they should. I believe other ethnic groups should especially the Baloch.

**Anglojew** · 03-03-2014, 03:45 AM

Originally Posted by Nabatea1

I would like the islands to be in Arab hands, the Iranians never belonged to these islands, but they took them in 1971. They have tried ever since to assimilate the Arab islanders who are of Bedouin stock and are Sunni Muslims, but it has so far not worked. They also banned the traditional dresses and forced them into Westernized clothing and to be part of a Persian cultural element, this did not work out to well. At times there is ethnic tensions between the native Arabs and the Persian migrants. As for Ahwaz I think they should get autonomy, and if they want independence they should. I believe other ethnic groups should especially the Baloch.

Do Shia Arabs generally like Persians?