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    Default The Iranian origin of huns and tengriist shamanism as well as the Ashina clan

    The word "tengri" is one of the thousands words that have been borrowed by Turkic from Iranian, indeed that word could not be analyzed within a Turkic perspective and does have a cristal clear Iranian etymology.
    BaileyHunaEtymology.pdf

    Also when dealing with Hunnic and Ashina (the ruler clan of the gokturk state) onomastics one should not be surprised by the fact that ALL names are Iranian
    http://repository.enu.kz/bitstream/h...89/3185/oq.pdf
    The name Ašina is not recorded in the Turkic-language inscriptions of the Türks, but is frequently mentioned in the Chinese sources, Ashina 阿 史 那 (EMC *ʔaʂɨ’na’, Pulleyblank, 1991: 23, 283, 221), MC ʔâ ṣɨB naC (Schuessler, 2009: 211 [18-1m], 103 [4-52a], 215 [18-12a]) and is probably from Khotanese Saka âṣṣeina/âššena “blue,” implied by Bailey, 1985:
    Finally, it's funny that the Iranian word and region "Turan" is used by some ignorant folks as a symbol of the panturkomongolist ideology (basically by stockholm syndrom affected self delusional Pannonians and Anatolians)

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    Nothing new on this. For example the Hungarian Iranist Harmatta János revealed the Iranian ancestry of the majority of the Hunnic names earlier already. The Heftalites were Iranian Huns for example. But the leading tribes of the Hunnic confederation were Turkic. And the influence of the Iranian dualism was very strong in the Siberian shamanism, this is clear too.

    And?

    ps. Maybe some Hungarian toponym/hydronym have same origin with the Turán name: Tura, Túr, etc.

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    LOL what the f*ck for a bs?
    There is absolutely no proof Asen clan was Iranian. On the Orkhon runes, Bilge Kağan lists the names of his ancestors and it's all Turkic names like Bumin, Istemi and the others. The rest is good wishes and brain masturbations.
    Not to mention that Pazyryk Scythian kurgans from 2500 years ago unearthed at the Altay mountains were y-dna N.

    Tengri is Turkic word etymologically. Tengrism doesn't show the features of old Indo-Iranian religions. Iranic paganism was/is fire worship Zoroastrianism. Tengrism is different and it's more influenced by animistic faiths than by Zoroastrianism.

    Xiong Nu (Hun) were Turkic.
    Hephtalites (white Huns) were most likely mostly Iranic people but led by a Turkic upper class. Not to mention European Huns and Attila, they were led by Oğuric Turkic ruling elite.

    Attila is a Turkic name. His sons all had Turkic names too: Ellac, Ernac and Dengizich.

    Quote Originally Posted by blogen View Post
    Nothing new on this. For example the Hungarian Iranist Harmatta János revealed the Iranian ancestry of the majority of the Hunnic names earlier already. The Heftalites were Iranian Huns for example. But the leading tribes of the Hunnic confederation were Turkic. And the influence of the Iranian dualism was very strong in the Siberian shamanism, this is clear too.

    And?

    ps. Maybe some Hungarian toponym/hydronym have same origin with the Turán name: Tura, Túr, etc.
    Hungarian orientalists may be sometimes people like Stears
    A Hungarian Turcologist even pretended the word Turk was Iranian Saka word. But he isn't taken seriously.
    Because in the Orkhon inscription it's written both Türk and Türük.
    Türk evolved from Türük, which etymologically very Turkic-sounding.

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    Lmfao Siyendi with a mental breakdown when he finds out his people were ruled by a group of dumb savage Iranic nomads

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    Quote Originally Posted by Pahli View Post
    Lmfao Siyendi with a mental breakdown when he finds out his people were ruled by a group of dumb savage Iranic nomads
    We don't speak Iranian and we don't have an Iranic identity.
    What you write here goes for you.

    You descend from neolithic farmers (God knows their language and identity) assimilated by handful Iranians who came down from Kurgan.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Siyendi View Post
    We don't speak Iranian and we don't have an Iranic identity.
    What you write here goes for you.

    You descend from neolithic farmers (God knows their language and identity) assimilated by handful Iranians who came down from Kurgan.
    LOL, ancient Turkic people were idiots, it was the Iranic Scythians that teached them how to fight. I might be assimilated, but at least the place I come from (West Iran) has a long history of civilization and later empires that have been way more influential than some dumb Turkic horse riders lol.

    But but ... You yourself descend from Anatolian farmers, assimilated by some Persianized Turkmen horse riders. Without Iranians you would have been nothing

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