Priests Commit No More Abuse Than Other Males

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Sources given for the video:

John Jay Report
http://*******/16xcdyO

2011 follow-up report by John Jay
http://www.philvaz.com/ABUSE.PDF

Serial Abusers: Report by John Jay College
http://*******/12CbOvJ

"Pedophiles and Priests" by Philip Jenkins
http://amzn.to/14t4CRP

U.S.A Today Article by Phil Jenkins
http://usat.ly/11JApd1

Washington Post Article
http://wapo.st/12PQBje

Address of Dr. Monica Applewhite to Irish Bishops
http://*******/16aoVCF

Child Maltreatment Data Tables (Public Schools)
http://1.usa.gov/11FAGg4

U.S. Department of Education Study/Report
http://1.usa.gov/14cf9Pa

CBS News Interview with Charol Shakeshaft (Author of the DOE Report)
http://cbsn.ws/18PPTop

"Allegations in Public Schools Piling up"
http://*******/11FAIEA

Also...
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The Catholic sex-abuse stories emerging every day suggest that Catholics have a much bigger problem with child molestation than other denominations and the general population. Many point to peculiarities of the Catholic Church (its celibacy rules for priests, its insular hierarchy, its exclusion of women) to infer that there's something particularly pernicious about Catholic clerics that predisposes them to these horrific acts. It's no wonder that, back in 2002—when the last Catholic sex-abuse scandal was making headlines—a Wall Street Journal-NBC News poll found that 64 percent of those queried thought Catholic priests "frequently'' abused children.

Yet experts say there's simply no data to support the claim at all. No formal comparative study has ever broken down child sexual abuse by denomination, and only the Catholic Church has released detailed data about its own. But based on the surveys and studies conducted by different denominations over the past 30 years, experts who study child abuse say they see little reason to conclude that sexual abuse is mostly a Catholic issue. "We don't see the Catholic Church as a hotbed of this or a place that has a bigger problem than anyone else," said Ernie Allen, president of the National Center for Missing and Exploited Children. "I can tell you without hesitation that we have seen cases in many religious settings, from traveling evangelists to mainstream ministers to rabbis and others."

Since the mid-1980s, insurance companies have offered sexual misconduct coverage as a rider on liability insurance, and their own studies indicate that Catholic churches are not higher risk than other congregations. Insurance companies that cover all denominations, such as Guide One Center for Risk Management, which has more than 40,000 church clients, does not charge Catholic churches higher premiums. "We don't see vast difference in the incidence rate between one denomination and another," says Sarah Buckley, assistant vice president of corporate communications. "It's pretty even across the denominations." It's been that way for decades. While the company saw an uptick in these claims by all types of churches around the time of the 2002 U.S. Catholic sex-abuse scandal, Eric Spacick, Guide One's senior church-risk manager, says "it's been pretty steady since." On average, the company says 80 percent of the sexual misconduct claims they get from all denominations involve sexual abuse of children. As a result, the more children's programs a church has, the more expensive its insurance, officials at Guide One said.

The only hard data that has been made public by any denomination comes from John Jay College's study of Catholic priests, which was authorized and is being paid for by the U.S. Conference of Catholic Bishops following the public outcry over the 2002 scandals. Limiting their study to plausible accusations made between 1950 and 1992, John Jay researchers reported that about 4 percent of the 110,000 priests active during those years had been accused of sexual misconduct involving children. Specifically, 4,392 complaints (ranging from "sexual talk" to rape) were made against priests by 10,667 victims. (Reports made after 2002, including those of incidents that occurred years earlier, are released as part of the church's annual audits.)

http://news.uk.msn.com/world/article...ntid=152959036

Five myths about the Catholic sexual abuse scandal

3. Sexual abuse is more pervasive in the Catholic Church than in other institutions.

Sexual abuse of minors is not the province of the Catholic Church alone. About 4 percent(*) of priests committed an act of sexual abuse on a minor between 1950 and 2002, according to a study being conducted by John Jay College of Criminal Justice in New York. That is roughly consistent with data on many similar professions.

An extensive 2007 investigation by the Associated Press showed that sexual abuse of children in U.S. schools was "widespread," and most of it was never reported or punished. And in Portland, Ore., last week, a jury reached a $1.4 million verdict against the Boy Scouts of America in a trial that showed that since the 1920s, Scouts officials kept "perversion files" on suspected abusers but kept them secret.

"We don't see the Catholic Church as a hotbed of this or a place that has a bigger problem than anyone else," Ernie Allen, president of the National Center for Missing and Exploited Children, told Newsweek. "I can tell you without hesitation that we have seen cases in many religious settings, from traveling evangelists to mainstream ministers to rabbis and others."

Part of the issue is that the Catholic Church is so tightly organized and keeps such meticulous records -- many of which have come to light voluntarily or through court orders -- that it can yield a fairly reliable portrait of its personnel and abuse over the decades. Other institutions, and most other religions, are more decentralized and harder to analyze or prosecute.

Note: The 4% figure is of accused priests, not of guilty priests, as half of the accusations were found to be fabricated.

http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn...041602026.html

The Catholic Church is not itself a locus of child molesters, rather it mirrors the problem of child abuse within society.

[Prisoner Of Ice]

All made up crap.

[Óttar]

"Priests commit no more sex abuse than other males..."

Oh, so that makes it all alright. I get it now...

[Prisoner Of Ice]

"Priests commit no more sex abuse than other males..."

Oh, so that makes it all alright. I get it now...

It's a made up controversy. In most cases, accusations are false, whether priests or not. Whenever you deal with a lot of people you are opened up to accusation from retards.

Media wants to attack church so they act like there is some epidemic and church is protecting pedos.

[Óttar]

It's a made up controversy. In most cases, accusations are false, whether priests or not. Whenever you deal with a lot of people you are opened up to accusation from retards.

Media wants to attack church so they act like there is some epidemic and church is protecting pedos.

Francis has said that there is a ring of paedos in the Church. A high-ranking cardinal resided above the largest gay resort in Europe. Of course the Church is going to blame it on gay people, but we all know they are the real culprit.

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"Priests commit no more sex abuse than other males..."

Oh, so that makes it all alright. I get it now...

Of course not, please watch the video and get the point before commenting non-sense. This is not meant to justify sexually inappropriate acts commited by clergies, you seem to completely miss the point, nowhere in the video or in the excerpts I quoted such conclusion is drawed, in fact in the video the speaker specificially say that clearly, predicting such types of comments like yours that are out of the point being clarified. Rather it approachs the widespread misconception that the Catholic Church is some sort of convention of pedophiles, when in fact there is no more reason to think a random priest has or will sexually misconducted himself to kids than there is for a random man who is not a priest. This is why I said:

The Catholic Church is not itself a locus of child molesters, rather it mirrors the problem of child abuse within society.

Also this shows that claims that child molestion commited by priests are somehow a result of vows of chastity have no real ground and there is no correlation between these two things.

Suppose someone told me that brazilians are great consumers of hard drugs, then I show evidence that brazilians don't consume more hard drugs that other people and this is an ungrounded stereotype. I am not making a judgment value if consuming hard drugs is morally good or bad by doing that, I am just fighting ignorance and doing the little I can to correct a misconception, you could not conclude by that alone if I think that doing drugs is alright or not alright. Analogously here, in case it is not clear for you, everyone thinks child molestation is not alright, even if it was a single priest, the point is to correct misconceptions that this is somehow more pertinent to the Catholic Church than it is to the rest of society or to other religious organizations.

[Prisoner Of Ice]

Francis has said that there is a ring of paedos in the Church. A high-ranking cardinal resided above the largest gay resort in Europe. Of course the Church is going to blame it on gay people, but we all know they are the real culprit.

Like how catholic church gets blamed for uganda, when reality is they had a gay lunatic king who killed any men who didn't sleep with him and this has made people 'homophobic'.

There's secret pedos hiding everywhere, but catholic church is nothing at all compared to gay activists who are all pedos. Or to BBC which is full of pedos. Or to EU government which is full of pedos and promotes pedo rights.

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Like how catholic church gets blamed for uganda, when reality is they had a gay lunatic king who killed any men who didn't sleep with him and this has made people 'homophobic'.

There's secret pedos hiding everywhere, but catholic church is nothing at all compared to gay activists who are all pedos. Or to BBC which is full of pedos. Or to EU government which is full of pedos and promotes pedo rights.

The BBC made documentaries exaggerating the level of child abuse within the Catholic Church and gleefully reported any accusations on its website. During all that time the BBC were covering up their own pedophile activities with Jimmy Savile being just the tip of a very ugly iceberg. One ex-child actor claimed that as a young boy he was chased around a dressing room by naked BBC actors and other child stars have told of being at BBC parties were children were plied with drink and drugs before being raped.

As if all this isn't bad enough, Catholics like myself are forced to pay a licence fee that pays the salary of these BBC pedophiles whilst BBC routinely mock the Catholic Church constantly linking the church to pedophilia.

The Guardian is a vile liberal Marxist newspaper here in England. It always demonizes the Catholic Church yet it has consistently called for the age of consent to be reduced to 14 or even scrapped altogether.

The levels of hypocrisy are mind-blowing. Weak minded morons actually fall for these media lies.

[Prisoner Of Ice]

Not only that but their shows are all shit now, with nothing decent since the 90s. As soon as politics enter entertainment it becomes braindead shit. I consider the death of the old BBC one of the biggest crimes of leftists.