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    Quote Originally Posted by Neon Knight View Post
    Yeah, it's not racism - it's tribalism. We could even say it is 'accentism'.
    You're right. I know in many ways it is good to have the variety of accents we have within the UK and the heritage associated with each, but accents are a cause of so much division and strife here. Your accent does not necessarily represent where you were born or even where your parents are from, but generally just where you grew up and went to school. Yet on hearing your accent people immediately make judgements on your geographical and family background, education, social class, likely job, likely hobbies and interests, and even where you're likely to shop. They also make judgements on whether or not they're likely to get on with you. Accents are incredibly restricting and I don't think people have the freedom they would have if the whole of the British Isles had the same accent.

    Again, I like the diversity of accents in principle, I just don't like the judgements that are made based on them.

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    Social class is probably a bigger division of hate than nationality. Can't speak for the whole of Britain. But here private schooled Scots are disliked more than the English. The Upper class Scots are disliked more than any working class Englishman.

    A Glaswegian would see themself as closer to to a Scouser or Geordie, than to a Scots Laird.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Graham View Post
    Social class is probably a bigger division of hate than nationality. Can't speak for the whole of Britain. But here private schooled Scots are disliked more than the English. The Upper class Scots are disliked more than any working class Englishman.

    A Glaswegian would see themself as closer to to a Scouser or Geordie, than to a Scots Laird.
    Exactly! And I don't know if it is the same elsewhere but in England the biggest thing that instantly defines your social class is your accent. Causing conflict even within a nationality. I don't like it.

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    We are occasionally 'racist' (i hate that word) towards each other, but usually it's light hearted, or at least nothing serious. Although there are occasional more serious incidents, like English people getting beaten up in Wales for being English (and perhaps the opposite in England, i don't know?) and there were some attacks on English holiday homes some years back apparently. Generally we get on reasonably well, although one Welsh guy i used to know did consider himself in enemy territory while studying here, so perhaps there's a deeper hatred beneath the surface.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jackson View Post
    one Welsh guy i used to know did consider himself in enemy territory while studying here
    I think some people just like the drama.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Catkin View Post
    I think some people just like the drama.
    Don't we all my lovely lassie?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Uhtred View Post
    Don't we all my lovely lassie?
    That wasn't the response I was expecting from you! I'd battened down the hatches ready for an attack due to my possibly perceived besmirching of a Welshman

    Yay!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Catkin View Post
    That wasn't the response I was expecting from you! I'd battened down the hatches ready for an attack due to my possibly perceived besmirching of a Welshman

    Yay!
    I guess it is more than one "boyo who likes drama". What explains that? Why this Welshman who was studying in England made such statement? Why me, a diasporian, support the idea of a free Cymru? It's a feeling that is passed from our ancestors to us perhaps? Who knows.

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