mtDNA Haplogroup U Types Among Pre-Historic Eurasian Hunter-Gatherers

[The King, I am]

And constintley score ~20% in sub Saharan African components in admixtures.

Not kabyles

[Argang]

Not kabyles

They score a bit less, but Davidski who runs Eurogenes project has checked Kabyle and Riffian samples and they fit within North African variation.

[The King, I am]

They score a bit less, but Davidski who runs Eurogenes project has checked Kabyle and Riffian samples and they fit within North African variation.

No shit they ARE North African

[Argang]

No shit they ARE North African

And all that entails.

Nevertheless an interesting group that should be studied more. Academic samples of their autosomal genetics are still missing.

[The King, I am]

And all that entails.

Nevertheless an interesting group that should be studied more. Academic samples of their autosomal genetics are still missing.

I know
When I start receiving welfare im gonna buy a 23andme kit

[Fire Haired]

It can't really be said where the ancestors of those with young subclades were during Mesolithic or Paleolithic. U5b1b1a has originated from U5b1 (found in many places like ancient Poland), and only Bronze age remains with U5b1b1a could indicate where it happened.

There's also been MtDNA C1f in mesolithic White Sea area, but the subclade hasn't been found in living populations.

I think the C1f is of east Asian origin since in the site the mtDNA was sampled some of the skull's had Mongoloid shapes. Plus there is prove in mtDNA and skeletal remains of western(WHG+ANE) and east Asian admixture in the Baraba steppe.

[Argang]

I think the C1f is of east Asian origin since in the site the mtDNA was sampled some of the skull's had Mongoloid shapes. Plus there is prove in mtDNA and skeletal remains of western(WHG+ANE) and east Asian admixture in the Baraba steppe.

The C1f is not very related to any extant C1, and not more related to East Asian or Siberian C1 than to Amerindian and Icelandic clades. It may represent (perhaps more ANE-like?) extinct Siberians or something, but autosomals from those remains would tell more.



Craniometrics alone don't tell enough, it would be hard to tell Loschbour skull and La Braña skull belonged to guys (mesolithic hunter-gatherers) who were more close to each other than any modern european genetically.

Spoiler!

[Fire Haired]

The C1f is not very related to any extant C1, and not more related to East Asian or Siberian C1 than to Amerindian and Icelandic clades. It may represent (perhaps more ANE-like?) extinct Siberians or something, but autosomals from those remains would tell more.

I agree, but still it's most likely east Asian.

[Argang]

I agree, but still it's most likely east Asian.

The suggested origination point for all C is not too far from Mal'ta. There probably were ancient contacts around Eurasia that were mostly hidden by neolithic population movements.

Eurogenes' IBS sharing test showed that La Braña had more genomewide similarity with Kets than with Armenians or Cypriots, I think there are no living populations in Europe today who would get similar results - and that can only be due to neolithic farmer admixture.

[Black Wolf]

It makes you wonder if mtDNA haplogroup U was the very first Homo Sapiens mtDNA lineage to spread north out of the Near East into Eurasia and then went both west into Europe and east into Siberia/Asia in Upper Paleolithic times since it is present among Upper Paleolithic and Mesolithic peoples from Iberia in the far west to Siberia in the far east. I think it may be the main mtDNA lineage of the earliest Caucasoids or proto-Caucasoids of west and north Eurasia.