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    Default Maternal & Paternal DNA Origins in Ireland

    http://newswatch.nationalgeographic....l-dna-results/

    Interesting that the same DNA comes from Iberia and southern Germany:




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    I think the same people inhabited the whole of West Europe during the Neolithic period.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Neon Knight View Post

    There is a chance that I1a & R1a haplogroups are actually earlier to the British Islands than R1b is.

    R1b haplpgroup is higher in Eastern Ireland where there was more Viking expansion!


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    Quote Originally Posted by Neon Knight View Post
    http://newswatch.nationalgeographic....l-dna-results/

    Interesting that the same DNA comes from Iberia and southern Germany
    Different subclades though. Aren't the oldest "Celtic" variants of R1b currently from France?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Anglojew View Post
    I think the same people inhabited the whole of West Europe during the Neolithic period.
    Out Of Africa Theory is a lie.
    http://www.theapricity.com/forum/sho...88#post3431588
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    Bear in mind that maternal and paternal DNA only give a small part of the picture. We know that the Irish have more overlap with the British than any other populations.
    Last edited by Neon Knight; 03-30-2014 at 08:39 AM.

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    12% paternal vs 7% maternal sounds reasonable for the Viking/Germanic ancestry (obviously more males had migrated then females). Complete lack of hunter-gatherer paternal is unusual - any other possible explanation other than Neolithic Celtic/Proto-Celtic newcomers exterminating all local hunter-gatherer males?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Cail View Post
    Complete lack of hunter-gatherer paternal is unusual - any other possible explanation other than Neolithic Celtic/Proto-Celtic newcomers exterminating all local hunter-gatherer males?
    Since I and C1 are the only paternals so far found in mesolithic European hunter-gatherers, they could very well have some. The NatGeo people probably didn't know it when completing that study, because the studies (including Y-DNA results for Loschbour, Motala and La Braña HG's) were published as recently as December 2013 and January 2014.

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    Actually, haplogroup HV (the ancestral haplogroup to haplogroup H and haplogroup V) and even H have been found among the paleolithic people aswell, so some of these samples marked as neolithic could have been paleolithic (hunter-gatherers). U has been the most common during the paleolithic era though.

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    I find it funny that there's 16% paleolithic female mtdna but 0% male y-dna. So seriously, there was not one male line that survived? I don't find that too likely.
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