Atlantid Type in the British Isles

[AlbonicScholar]

The stereotypical image of the Welsh is that of a dark and stocky people based on Anglo-Saxon myths. Now in actuality , the most common eye colour of the Welsh is blue. Nearly half of the Welsh population is blue-eyed alone. The totality of light eye colours goes well over the 70% mark (higher than that Germany and any other Central European nation!). The primary Europid racial element besides the «*universal*» Keltic Nordid, is the North Atlantid. This phenotype is within the Nordid family combines brown or dark hair + blue or light eyes + pale or very fair skin. No wonder why as a whole, Welsh women are the most good-looking in the Isles.

That's why I said real ethic Welsh people, not anyone living in Wales. I live right next to Wales and you can tell who is, and who is not ethically Welsh. Most "Welsh" people are no longer Welsh, at least not fully and lots not at all. There is a common saying in Wales that the south are Englishman with Welsh accents and its broadly true. The Romans even described them as I did.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Silures

[Septentrion]

That's why I said real ethic Welsh people, not anyone living in Wales. I live right next to Wales and you can tell who is, and who is not ethically Welsh. Most "Welsh" people are no longer Welsh, at least not fully and lots not at all. There is a common saying in Wales that the south are Englishman with Welsh accents and its broadly true. The Romans even described them as I did.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Silures

Please don’t talk rubbish. You are obviously referring to the Welsh stereotype («*dark Welshman*» image). It is by this look that you are judging the Welsh to look like. Yes a fraction of Welsh do look like that, unfortunately Wales isn’t homogeneous. I wasn’t referring to the «*Little England beyond Wales*» area either. As in that region of Pembrokeshire, you’ll get a higher ratio of Anglo-Saxon, Tronder, Hallstatt Nordid, Borreby than in the rest of Wales. The Keltic Nordid and the North Atlantid are the most common phenotypes in Wales. All these phenotypes were there present before the arrival of Romans or Saxons or Vikings or Normans. Today nearly half of the Welsh are blue - eyed. The Romans only described one group that lives in Wales and probably look very CM ( Paleo Atlantid ).

[PaganPoet]

It is by this look that you are judging the Welsh to look like.

This is the same mechanism that gives you an idea how you think Belgian people look like.
"Keltic Nordic"

[Septentrion]

This is the same mechanism that gives you an idea how you think Belgian people look like.
"Keltic Nordic"

Please shut up! You are there trying to brand all Europeans as a bunch of Mongoloid-admixed people. Continue your hopeless cause. Obviously the only difference between us (Belgians) and our Insular neighbors is that we have a much higher rate of CM-admixed (Borreby), as well as West Alpinid or Subnordid people. Thus, this brings up our average cephalic index to be slightly higher than of Britain and Ireland. It’s not due to some Mongoloid or Chink admixture. I did not come up with the Keltic Nordic or Frankish Nordic phenotype. It is a fact that there was absolutely no difference between skeletal materials of the northern Kelts and Frankish tribes. These folks settled strongly in the North - West European mainland and then crossed over to the British Isles.

[Anglo-Celtic]

I wonder. Who were the lucky trio who got green thumbs from Septentrion?

[Kess]

I wonder. Who were the lucky trio who got green thumbs from Septentrion?

He actually gives thumbs up and takes it back.

Happened to me once.

[Anglo-Celtic]

He actually gives thumbs up and takes it back.

Who were the three lucky people? They must have paid him.

[Kess]

Who were the three lucky people? They must have paid him.

I think he forgot to take it back.

[Anglo-Celtic]

I think he forgot to take it back.

That makes sense. There's no pleasing him, but he seems like a chill dude who isn't bothered by much.

[Septentrion]

Brown eyes and stocky are classic Welsh phenotypes, the Welsh are not Celtic now? 90% of real ethic Welsh people are "Atlanto-mediterranid"

This also tells me that you don’t have a clue about the specific characteristics of the Atlanto - Mediterranean race of Southern Europe. The “real” people of Wales fall outside of those characteristics as a whole. However on individual basis, it is possible to single out such a type. Though it is the principal racial type in that part of Europe. The majority of the Welsh are blue or light - eyed even if there is a presence of brown or hazel (mixed) eyes. Wales does have a higher ratio of black or very dark hair than England, but not blue or light eyes as South - West England, East England, South - East England are darker - eyed than Wales. This in fact kills the stereotype of the “dark - eyed” Welshman. The English do have higher rates of blond or light hair than Wales.