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    Quote Originally Posted by Hrulj View Post
    Thats why they couldnt defeat anyone in the last war
    NATO got involved because we lost eh

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    Many gorani's have Albanian names. It can be impossible to tell them apart unless you know their villages and family history. But I'm certain many do assimilate completely. There are also the Tobereshe in Macedonia who one day decide to be Albanian.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Stefan_Dusan View Post
    Many gorani's have Albanian names. It can be impossible to tell them apart unless you know their villages and family history. But I'm certain many do assimilate completely. There are also the Tobereshe in Macedonia who one day decide to be Albanian.
    I'm ready to assimilate any hot babe who thinks about becoming Albanian

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    Quote Originally Posted by Stefan_Dusan View Post
    NATO got involved because we lost eh
    Where was NATO bombing before 1999
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    Quote Originally Posted by Fryma View Post
    I'm ready to assimilate any hot babe who thinks about becoming Albanian
    In all seriousness, I think 'mixed' people make some choice down the road and try to scrub all evidence of their other ethnicity. If you happen to be Serbian-Albanian mix in Kosovo, neither Serb nor Albanian side will trust you. So these people often pick a side, and try to cleanse all references to their mixedness.

    During the time Serbian army walked into Kosovo, there were many "Serbs" who came to them dressed completely like Albanian (Plis and all) and who spoke better Albanian than Serbian, announce to them that they were Serbian all along. How much of this was assimilation of styles and not mixing is not very clear. However these people were given brand new names, Serbian ones of course. On flip side, many seemingly Serbian residents of Kosovo, having Serbian names, Serbian dress style, suddenly announce they were Albanian all along, they modify their name to "Albanian" one (sometimes this is just writing their name in Albanian letters, others it's taking away Serbian suffic of ic/vic and adding aj, sometimes it's completely new name whatsoever). In Kosovo, as many Albanians try to claim, few people trace their ancestry before 1700s/1800s. When they 'claim' they do, it's often because they weakly traced to some Albanian tribe for which they claim the entire tribal history as them tracing, this would never fly if they were required to prove their ancestry. I'm one of rare ones who can, I remember many kids being impressed about this in Kosovo.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Hrulj View Post
    Where was NATO bombing before 1999
    And we were losing in 1998 Balija

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    Quote Originally Posted by Stefan_Dusan View Post
    And we were losing in 1998 Balija
    If you werent why are Albanians still living?
    You fought them since 1990
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    Quote Originally Posted by Hrulj View Post
    If you werent why are Albanians still living?
    You fought them since 1990
    Interesting, what fighting was happening in 1990?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Stefan_Dusan View Post
    In all seriousness, I think 'mixed' people make some choice down the road and try to scrub all evidence of their other ethnicity. If you happen to be Serbian-Albanian mix in Kosovo, neither Serb nor Albanian side will trust you. So these people often pick a side, and try to cleanse all references to their mixedness.

    During the time Serbian army walked into Kosovo, there were many "Serbs" who came to them dressed completely like Albanian (Plis and all) and who spoke better Albanian than Serbian, announce to them that they were Serbian all along. How much of this was assimilation of styles and not mixing is not very clear. However these people were given brand new names, Serbian ones of course. On flip side, many seemingly Serbian residents of Kosovo, having Serbian names, Serbian dress style, suddenly announce they were Albanian all along, they modify their name to "Albanian" one (sometimes this is just writing their name in Albanian letters, others it's taking away Serbian suffic of ic/vic and adding aj, sometimes it's completely new name whatsoever). In Kosovo, as many Albanians try to claim, few people trace their ancestry before 1700s/1800s. When they 'claim' they do, it's often because they weakly traced to some Albanian tribe for which they claim the entire tribal history as them tracing, this would never fly if they were required to prove their ancestry. I'm one of rare ones who can, I remember many kids being impressed about this in Kosovo.
    which serbs became albanian all of a sudden lol and no gorans usually feel serbian and they have taken part in a lot of massacres against albanians

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    Quote Originally Posted by Stefan_Dusan View Post
    In all seriousness, I think 'mixed' people make some choice down the road and try to scrub all evidence of their other ethnicity. If you happen to be Serbian-Albanian mix in Kosovo, neither Serb nor Albanian side will trust you. So these people often pick a side, and try to cleanse all references to their mixedness.

    During the time Serbian army walked into Kosovo, there were many "Serbs" who came to them dressed completely like Albanian (Plis and all) and who spoke better Albanian than Serbian, announce to them that they were Serbian all along. How much of this was assimilation of styles and not mixing is not very clear. However these people were given brand new names, Serbian ones of course. On flip side, many seemingly Serbian residents of Kosovo, having Serbian names, Serbian dress style, suddenly announce they were Albanian all along, they modify their name to "Albanian" one (sometimes this is just writing their name in Albanian letters, others it's taking away Serbian suffic of ic/vic and adding aj, sometimes it's completely new name whatsoever). In Kosovo, as many Albanians try to claim, few people trace their ancestry before 1700s/1800s. When they 'claim' they do, it's often because they weakly traced to some Albanian tribe for which they claim the entire tribal history as them tracing, this would never fly if they were required to prove their ancestry. I'm one of rare ones who can, I remember many kids being impressed about this in Kosovo.
    1455: Turkish cadastral tax census (defter)[42] of the Branković District (covering most of present-day Kosovo) recorded:

    480 villages,
    13,693 adult males,
    12,985 dwellings,
    14,087 household heads (480 widows and 13,607 adult males).

    Totally there were around 75,000 inhabitants in 590 villages comprising modern-day Kosovo.
    1487

    1487 defter recorded:

    Vučitrn district:
    16,729 Christian households (412 in Pristina and Vučitrn)
    117 Muslim households (94 in Pristina and 83 in rural areas)
    Ipek (Peć) district:
    City of Ipek
    121 Christian households
    33 Muslim households
    Suho Grlo and Metohija:
    131 Christian households of which 52% in Suho Grlo were Serbs
    Donja Klina - 50% Serbs
    Deçan - 64% Serbs
    Rural areas:
    6,124 Christian households (99%)
    55 Muslim households (1%)
    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Demogra...Kosovo#History

    fact remains, we can't really say what exactly these people were.

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