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    Quote Originally Posted by Vojnik View Post
    It must be really easy to make you laugh then.

    Does this also make you laugh?

    Yes, we are laughing at your stupidity for posting a hagiography as a reliable historical source. Why don't you take a glance at the hagiography of St. Demetrios of Thessaloniki to conclude the exact opposite?


    http://www.utexas.edu/cola/centers/l...ocsol-3-X.html

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    Quote Originally Posted by Fryma View Post
    1455: Turkish cadastral tax census (defter)[42] of the Branković District (covering most of present-day Kosovo) recorded:

    480 villages,
    13,693 adult males,
    12,985 dwellings,
    14,087 household heads (480 widows and 13,607 adult males).

    Totally there were around 75,000 inhabitants in 590 villages comprising modern-day Kosovo.
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    1487 defter recorded:

    Vučitrn district:
    16,729 Christian households (412 in Pristina and Vučitrn)
    117 Muslim households (94 in Pristina and 83 in rural areas)
    Ipek (Peć) district:
    City of Ipek
    121 Christian households
    33 Muslim households
    Suho Grlo and Metohija:
    131 Christian households of which 52% in Suho Grlo were Serbs
    Donja Klina - 50% Serbs
    Deçan - 64% Serbs
    Rural areas:
    6,124 Christian households (99%)
    55 Muslim households (1%)
    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Demogra...Kosovo#History

    fact remains, we can't really say what exactly these people were.
    In 1400s there were few Albanians in Kosovo, they began settling in Kosovo during Ottoman administration.

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    Quote Originally Posted by dralos View Post
    which serbs became albanian all of a sudden lol and no gorans usually feel serbian and they have taken part in a lot of massacres against albanians
    You must be high. Serbs call gorani's "shiptar" and Gorani's have no Serb conscious whatsoever. Many have Albanian desire. Do you even understand Kosovo?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Stefan_Dusan View Post
    In 1400s there were few Albanians in Kosovo, they began settling in Kosovo during Ottoman administration.
    Albanians were in full frontal war with Ottomans during 1400s-1500s our population was decimated by half, not to forget the ones that fled to Italy too. During this time Brankovic had it cushy with the Ottomans, and you forget his involvement in the second Kosova battle. Get your facts straight.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Stefan_Dusan View Post
    You must be high. Serbs call gorani's "shiptar" and Gorani's have no Serb conscious whatsoever. Many have Albanian desire. Do you even understand Kosovo?
    Goranis were very pro Serbs in Kosova, even though they don't claim to be Serbs as some suggest here.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Skerdilaid View Post
    Albanians were in full frontal war with Ottomans during 1400s-1500s our population was decimated by half, not to forget the ones that fled to Italy too. During this time Brankovic had it cushy with the Ottomans, and you forget with involvement in the second Kosova battle. Get your facts straight.
    The only Albanian rebellion happened in the mat river valley, not in Kosovo. There was no reason for Serbians to rebel in Kosovo then because we weren't under Ottoman control, yet. I think you should get your facts straight.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Skerdilaid View Post
    Goranis were very pro Serbs in Kosova, even though they don't claim to be Serbs as some suggest here.
    They were never pro-Serbs, they are Muslims who are disliked by Serbs and they themselves dislike Serbs.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Stefan_Dusan View Post
    They were never pro-Serbs, they are Muslims who are disliked by Serbs and they themselves dislike Serbs.
    I don't think you know much about them. Few Goranis got killed in Drenica too with bunch of Serb cops. They were very pro Serb, but I guess they are kind of like gypsies whom ever is in power they side with.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Skerdilaid View Post
    I don't think you know much about them. Few Goranis got killed in Drenica too with bunch of Serb cops. They were very pro Serb, but I guess they are kind of like gypsies whom ever is in power they side with.
    Actually I know a lot about them. I don't think you do however. They are still in Kosovo, with Albanian names, many of them now identify as Albanians. Serbs themselves don't like them and never have and Gorani's slowly assimilate into Albanians.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Stefan_Dusan View Post
    The only Albanian rebellion happened in the mat river valley, not in Kosovo. There was no reason for Serbians to rebel in Kosovo then because we weren't under Ottoman control, yet. I think you should get your facts straight.
    You claimed that we settled in Kosova at 1400s under Ottomans, and now you are saying you weren't under Ottomans .During the second Kosova battle, Kosova was an Ottoman vassal state under Brankovic.

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