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    Quote Originally Posted by portusaus View Post
    It's obvious why wealthy banking families are, it is a threat to their power. But as for the common folk, why? Are they just stupid, or propaganda sponges?
    It has to do with the fact Fascism was defeated. The establishment prefers an internatina bnking system which puts every nation into serfdom. Communism also failed, the west is the leader of the world right at the moment but once we are thrown into another financial crisis [which is bound to happen] then we might see it rise again. The problem is the 'intellectuals' in America are either pro left or pro upper class [neo-cons].....they ensure there is no room for fascism. This is because democracy itself has won out over every other political ideology but every democracy falls sooner or later. Its not a good system of government for a multitude of reasons.

    Think about it and then make your observances with lets say Congress and how dysfunctional it is. Democracy is a system that failed the ancient greeks and even the Romans and most small scale societies. It fell for a multitude of reasons as most democracies become disease ridden and implode over a period of time. I mean patriotism in America is confusing as their is no ethnic groups, no sense of cultural or volkish indentity so I have little in common with most other Americans with y opinions and beliefs. Take the fact that there is a multitude of races here and religions....it is bound to fail because such a system does not really serve the people but the few who lead it and live in comfort in other countries. America and the West [if not the entire world] are ran by the IMF and World Banking System. Almost every nation is in slavery and they do not really realize this or the complexity behind it.

    Fascism was better because it took the best of socialism, democracy and nationalism and put the volk of their respective countries first over the world. I like Spain and their Fascist model but I also admire National Socialism. The reason these systems failed is due to the fact they broke away from the IMF and World Banking System and imposed or dictated to the world what their dollar was worth, and their own demands in terms of trade. It forced the world banking system to either block them [like they do with North Korea] or isolate their trade and ability to trade with other nations. Today almost every country is in servitude to the IMF.

    Democracy in America is the great lie ever told next to Fascism being bad for mankind. Fascism installs a patriotism that doesn't exist in the world anymore. Today most stupid Americans are more interested in the latest cellphone or Ipad than they care about this country. I mean why should we care about the country if its comprised of 6,000 different ethnicities and none of which have anything in common with one another? Multiculturalism is not nationalism but the destruction of it. Capitalism and Socialism are two sides of the same coin. Retarded American youth cannot see this. Today its all about individualism and the brainwash that comes with it thanks to libertarians.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Kiyant View Post
    Because they arent retarded.
    Patriotism = good and healthy
    Fascism = retarded and for Untermenschen
    Not to mock yo but this statement doesn't make sense. Fascism is Patriotism. Liberties, Individualism, Liberalism, Multiculturalism, Socialism and Capitalism do not equal Patriotism.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Scandalf View Post
    Because democracy and free market bring higher living standards as opposed to statalism in all it's forms.
    Not really, infact all Fascist regimes relied on free markets to thrive. The standard of living in Fascist countries was much higher than 'allied' and 'socialist' nations at the time. This is a huge misconception that fascism wasn't progressive economically.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Kiyant View Post
    Because they arent retarded.
    Patriotism = good and healthy
    Fascism = retarded and for Untermenschen
    Kiyant with his brilliant intelligence.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Kiyant View Post
    Its easy
    Fascists sought to unify their nation through a totalitarian state that promoted the mass mobilization of the national community[5][6] and were characterized by having a vanguard party that initiated a revolutionary political movement aiming to reorganize the nation along principles according to fascist ideology.[7] Fascist movements shared certain common features, including the veneration of the state, a devotion to a strong leader, and an emphasis on ultranationalism and militarism. Fascism views political violence, war, and imperialism as a means to achieve national rejuvenation[5][8][9][10] and asserts that stronger nations have the right to expand their territory by displacing weaker nations

    Alone the very idea and basics of fascism is an insult to intelligence
    There isn't anything wrong with the volkish system, the belief for the citizen to do more for their country as oppose to being 'individuals' with rights. The problem with democracy is the over emphasis on individual rights and what you as a citizen are entitled to. This creates an unhealthy country. Take my country for example its a culture of entitlement whether you are rich poor etc...... Fascism eliminated the over emphasis on class, religious differences, individualism [it is unhealthy] and promoted class cooperation, team work [the community works to get things done], and installed a mind set similar to what JFK said 'Ask not what your country can do for you but what you can do for your country'.....what everyone can give not what you can have or entitled to. Democracy is a petri dish for disease like homosexuality, multiculturalism, feminism, individualism, entitlement, hedonism, degeneracy, etc...... Its the best way for a country to commit suicide. To me Democracy is the red pill of destruction and stupidity. Look at how polluted most 'democratic' countries are, they have no regard for the environment because its your entitled right to pollute it. Democracy= who gives a shit about anything [anarchy at most] while fascism is the opposite. Actually many fascist regimes began environmental policies to save the environment and to clean it up.

    So to me Fascism is progressive not Democracy. Any system that praises degeneracy is in itself degenerate.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Siberian Cold Breeze View Post
    They are basicly promoting multi culture and trade based economy. That's why nationalist governments are threatening their corporations and globalisation
    therefore they label every natonialist movement " fascist" .

    Also national governments have to put totalitarian regimes to defend their borders .They have to control mass media and every manupulative leakings made by globalism


    A wicked vicious circle .
    All media is propaganda. Here her I live we have CNN and Fox news and most of what they tell you is bullshit. No matter what government rules over us will tell us what they want us to hear.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ojáncanu View Post
    For the same reason every sane person of every other race and social class feels sick about fascism and communism. Ideologies with a proven record of warfare and imperialism and atrocious conducts towards other human beings.
    Democracy hasn't done the same? Democracy is a hypocrisy.

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