Pirates: Chinese v Spanish. Chinese defeat Europeans and Spanish defeat Asians ( Dutch Japanese )

[ButlerKing]

These two great soldiers from the east and from the west.

In all battles the Spanish defeats Asians in the waters

In all battles the Chinese defeats European in the waters.



Chinese defeats Portugese


" In the 1800s, the Ningbo authorities contracted Cantonese pirates to exterminate and massacre Portuguese pirates who raided Cantonese shipping around Ningbo. The massacre was "successful", with 40 Portuguese dead and only 2 Chinese dead "


Chinese defeats Dutch

"Chinese defeats Dutch 2 times"

1st battle

Zhen Zhilong

" He defeated the Dutch and pirates, a combined force of more than 100,000. The spoils of this victory made him fabulously wealthy"


2nd battle son of Zhen Zhilong

Chinese 25,000 defeated Dutch 1200

" In 1661, Koxinga led his troops on a landing at Lu'ermen to attack the Dutch colonists in Taiwan. On 1 February 1662, the Dutch Governor of Taiwan, Frederik Coyett, surrendered Fort Zeelandia to Koxinga. "

Legendary pirate( A cantonese women )

defeated Dutch and British


" Undefeated, she would become one of China and Asia's strongest pirates, and one of world history's most powerful pirates. She was also one of the few pirate captains to retire from piracy. "

" The Chinese navy lost sixty-three ships in the attacks. Even the hired navies of Portugal and Britain could not defeat Ching Shih.[21] Finding it hopeless to defeat her, in 1810, amnesty was offered to all pirates, and Ching Shih took advantage of it.[22][23][24] "



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Spanish defeats Japanese



40 soldiers defeated more than a 1000 men



"Then the Japanese decided to attack by land with 600 soldiers. The trench endured that first assault, followed by another. As some pikes were seized by the Japanese Spanish sebum put the wood to make it more slippery and be more difficult to grasp. After a third attack, which almost came in the trenches, and with little gunpowder, the 30 Spanish soldiers were able to resist and defeat the enemy, and then attacked him, causing the enemy to flee. The Spanish then took the Japanese weapons that were left on the battlefield as trophies, which included beautiful katana and armor."


Spanish defeats Filipino

Spanish easily defeated the local tribes of Phip pines with only 300 - 1000 men maximum


Spanish conquers taiwan

Spanish defeats the Dutch and conquers the Taiwanese tribes

[ButlerKing]

Chinese vs Spanish. The ultimate battle.



WHO WILL WIN?


Chinese threat to the Spanish and 1663 Chinese rebellion

(part 1)

In 1662, Koxinga's Chinese forces raided several towns in the Philippines and demanded tribute from the Spanish colonial government, threatening to attack Manila if his demands were not met. The Spanish refused to pay the tribute and reinforced the garrisons around Manila, but the planned attack never took place due to Koxinga's sudden death in that year after expelling the Dutch on Taiwan.[2]

Koxinga's threat to invade the Philippines and expel the Spanish resulted in the Spanish failure to conquer the Islamic Moro people in Mindanao. The threat of Chinese invasion forced the Spanish to stop their conquest of the Moros and withdraw their garrisons to Manila. Koxinga's death resulted in the invasion being cancelled.[3] The Spanish retreated occurred in 1663. Zamboanga and Mindanao became devoid of Spanish soldiers after the Chinese threat against Manila.[4] The Chinese threat effectively destroyed the Spanish plan to conquer and colonize the Moros in Zamboanga.[5] Governor Bobadilla was the one who conducted the evacuation. Mindanao was just about to be colonised by Christians before Koxinga's planned conquest of the Philippines destroyed the entire Spanish plan to conquer Mindanao. Iligan and Zamboanga were given up by the Spanish.[6]


(part 2)

All government troops, both Spanish and native, were collected at Manila. So great was the fear, that three important forts were torn down, and the soldiers stationed there were brought to Luzon. Only the fort at Caraga, Mindanao, was left standing. This one they did not dare to give up; the soldiers there were all that kept the Moros from destroying the settlements on that coast.

A massacre of the Chinese by the Spanish and Filipinos followed during the rebellion. About 5,000 Chinese remained in Manila after the rebellion and massacre.

Koxinga's rage was great when he heard his mandarin's story. He planned to go at once to the islands to punish this wicked cruelty to his countrymen. He fell ill, however, and died of fever before he could start. Thus Manila escaped the fate that must almost surely have fallen upon the city if the Chinese chief and his great army had reached the bay.

The foolish attack upon the Chinese took so many Spanish soldiers from the southern islands that the Moros now had free swing along the coasts of Mindanao and the Visayas.[11]


(Part 3)

"In 1662 a Chinese rebellion embarrassed the Spaniards, and at this time several datos from the Jolo and Tawi-Tawi islands sacked and burned a great many towns in the Visayas. Following these inroads, Bobadilla, governor of Zamboanga, was ordered to evacuate that station, which was done in January, 1663.

For the next half century Moro raids on the Mindanao and Visayan settlements marked each year, and many fights were chronicled between the fleets of praus and the Spanish fleet known as the "Armada de los Pintados". The Jesuits had endeavoured in 1666 and 1672 to have the fort of Zamboanga rebuilt, but it was not until 1712 that the Spanish king ordered its reestablishment, and even then the project was not realised until 1718,[10] "

[The King, I am]

Berbers

[zhaoyun]

How about Punjabi pirates?

[ButlerKing]

Berbers are superior to both of them

[ButlerKing]

Chinese pirates



Spanish soldiers

[Cristiano viejo]

Berbers are superior to both of them

History says the opposite. Look the Reconquista

[ButlerKing]

History says the opposite. Look the Reconquista

At no point did the invading Islamic armies exceed 60,000 men.[6] However, those armies established an Islamic rule that would last 300 years in much of the Iberian Peninsula and 781 years in Granada.

[ButlerKing]

Anyway I'm talking about a war in the sea. The Spanish navies were the most powerful in the world during the 1600's.

The Chinese pirates were also the strongest in Asia and possibly the world. They ravaged Southern China and Southeast Asia for hundreds of years despite being under the Chinese Qing's Manchurian, Sultans or european empires protections

[Armand_Duval]

As a matter of fact Spanish Armada had no match during a big period of time until its decline after failing to invade england, and not totally due to british superiority, bad weather conditions here the key for british not to get invaded and held their ground to Armanda Invendible.

So the answer is: The Spanish Armada could kick any pirate arse.