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    Quote Originally Posted by Tony View Post
    And then?
    why don't USA bomb Saudi Arabia , another theocracy where the condition of women is way way worse than that of Iran
    I agree with this completely. If it was true that the western world really cared about human rights and terrorist implications than Saudi Arabia would be better suited to be bombed. Don't get me wrong, I am against this mentality that we somehow have any right what-so-ever to tell other countries what they can and cannot do, but under the criteria over the so-called war on terror, Saudi Arabia has more implications under the 9/11 terror attacks than Iran or Iraq ever had - which are completely non-existant. It's all about Israel and it always has been.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Tony View Post
    And then?
    why don't USA bomb Saudi Arabia , another theocracy where the condition of women is way way worse than that of Iran , when actually most university students are female and the tfr (total fertility rate) is dropped to 2 , like France , and that's a signal of women independence.
    Or for instance why doesn't US bomb China , an atheocray who persecute the Tibetans and religions?
    not to mention the regime complicity with the ongoing gender-cide against female babies.

    Human rights and theocracy are mostly mere excuses , like it was the "mass destruction weapons" accusation brought against Saddam Hussein.
    I was merely responding to this:

    Quote Originally Posted by Tony View Post
    So , since you call'em that shit [radical muslims] I ask you why?
    have they ever start any war against any neighbour state?
    have they ever set up concentration camps for their jewish community?
    have they ever treated their ethnic minoroties like the Azeri or the Kurds for instance , the way Israel treat Palestinians?
    Why the drama?

    I had to point out that Iran is not all nicey-nicey, which is what you were suggesting, and yes, Iran has had wars with her neighbours.

    I also do not think that the attack was designed to use terror as a weapon, and so I question the validity of the title of this thread.

    We all know the deep underlying reason why Iran must be neutralised:

    Iran, North Korea, Cuba and Libya are four countries in the world which are somewhat outside the international capitalist loop, but that does not make them friendly, but it does mean that they are the enemy of international capitalism, just as any fascist or communist country might be.

    Your posts are poorly constructed and your punctuation is terrible.

    You also forgot to capitalise 'Jewish', which is a childish WN habit that you probably picked up from Stormfront.

    Quote Originally Posted by Loki View Post
    You really think big brother America would have allowed the destruction of Israel?
    America is just using Israel. If Israel were not of use to America, she would be discarded like an unloved mistress.
    Last edited by Fortis in Arduis; 01-13-2010 at 04:36 AM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Fortis in Arduis View Post
    I was merely responding to this:



    Why the drama?

    I had to point out that Iran is not all nicey-nicey, which is what you were suggesting, and yes, Iran has had wars with her neighbours.
    Are you trying to twist my words or did you really not get it?
    I didn't ask if Iran "has had wars with its neighbours" (its , not her , Iran isn't a woman) , I've instead asked if it had started any war...
    and if you want to talk about geopolitics you should have known that the 80s bloody war between Iran and Iraq had been started by Iraq , with the fundamental US aid , in order to overthrow the anti-American Islamic regime of Teheran.
    I also do not think that the attack was designed to use terror as a weapon, and so I question the validity of the title of this thread.

    We all know the deep underlying reason why Iran must be neutralised:

    Iran, North Korea, Cuba and Libya are four countries in the world which are somewhat outside the international capitalist loop, but that does not make them friendly, but it does mean that they are the enemy of international capitalism, just as any fascist or communist country might be.
    Ok you've changed your mind , at first it was beacuse of this:
    Iran is not a secular democracy, it is an Islamic theocracy, and certainly sexual misdemeanours are punished in a fashion that most people must find unacceptable.
    Since I demonstrated that it's pretty false and a ridicule excuse for a war now you're trying to legitimize a war by accusing that country of being outside the capitalistic circle.
    Aside the fact that that also wouldn't be a sufficient reason to bomb any country
    I inform you that Iran has been involving in regular trade with a lot of nations since long ago:
    Main import partners (from Wiki):
    China 13.5%, UAE 9.8%, Germany 9.1%, South Korea 6.1%, Russia 5.6%, Italy 5.1%, France 4.2% (2008)
    Main export partners:
    China 18.5%, Japan 15.4%, Turkey 6.9%, South Korea 6.8%, Italy 4.9% (2008)
    Your posts are poorly constructed and your punctuation is terrible.
    Maybe but this doesn't make your arguments more valid than mine.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Tony View Post
    Are you trying to twist my words or did you really not get it?
    I didn't ask if Iran "has had wars with its neighbours" (its , not her , Iran isn't a woman) , I've instead asked if it had started any war...
    and if you want to talk about geopolitics you should have known that the 80s bloody war between Iran and Iraq had been started by Iraq , with the fundamental US aid , in order to overthrow the anti-American Islamic regime of Teheran.
    Fair enough.

    Ok you've changed your mind , at first it was beacuse of this:

    [Iran is not a secular democracy, it is an Islamic theocracy, and certainly sexual misdemeanours are punished in a fashion that most people must find unacceptable.]
    No, I was not saying, nor implying that it was because of that, I was merely discussing Iran. Iran's operation outside the liberal capitalist system, and Iran's status as an Islamic theocracy are not mutually exclusive conditions.

    Since I demonstrated that it's pretty false and a ridicule excuse for a war now you're trying to legitimize a war by accusing that country of being outside the capitalistic circle.
    Aside the fact that that also wouldn't be a sufficient reason to bomb any country
    No, I am not legitimising a war. I do not imagine that little me, behind my laptop screen would have the capability to do that. How grandiose.

    I am just suggesting what the motivations behind such a war might be.

    I inform you that Iran has been involving in regular trade with a lot of nations since long ago:
    Main import partners (from Wiki):
    China 13.5%, UAE 9.8%, Germany 9.1%, South Korea 6.1%, Russia 5.6%, Italy 5.1%, France 4.2% (2008)
    Main export partners:
    China 18.5%, Japan 15.4%, Turkey 6.9%, South Korea 6.8%, Italy 4.9% (2008)
    Iran is still outside the liberal capitalist system, and is therefore an enemy of that system.

    Maybe but this doesn't make your arguments more valid than mine.
    You have improved.

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    I've got an avatar that fits you very well Fortis...


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    Last time I checked, George Bush was not a secular democratic nationalist, and I was not a capitalist neo-conservative.
    Last edited by Fortis in Arduis; 01-14-2010 at 09:42 AM. Reason: last bit.

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