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    Quote Originally Posted by blogen View Post
    Turanids and Turanoids from Segesd:



    race: turanid
    height: 173,9
    length of the head: 200
    breadth of the head: 186
    breadth of the forehead: 122
    zygomatic width: 150
    morphological facial height: 132
    bigonial breadth: 110
    nasal height: 54
    nasal breadth: 41
    cephalic index: 83
    facial index: 88
    eye color (Martin-Schulz): 13
    hair color (Fischer-Saller): Y




    race: turanid
    height: 163,1
    length of the head: 177
    breadth of the head: 159
    breadth of the forehead: 111
    zygomatic width: 143
    morphological facial height: 109
    bigonial breadth: 111
    nasal height: 50
    nasal breadth: 36
    cephalic index: 89,63
    facial index: 76,22
    eye color (Martin-Schulz): 6
    hair color (Fischer-Saller): W




    race: turanid
    height: 166,1
    length of the head: 191
    breadth of the head: 186
    breadth of the forehead: 116
    zygomatic width: 152
    morphological facial height: 124
    bigonial breadth: 120
    nasal height: 55
    nasal breadth: 38
    cephalic index: 86,01
    facial index: 81,58
    eye color (Martin-Schulz): 14
    hair color (Fischer-Saller): Y




    race: turanoid
    height: 153,3
    length of the head: 180
    breadth of the head: 156
    breadth of the forehead: 116
    zygomatic width: 145
    morphological facial height: 110
    bigonial breadth: 113
    nasal height: 47
    nasal breadth: 33
    cephalic index: 86,67
    facial index: 76,86
    eye color (Martin-Schulz): 11
    hair color (Fischer-Saller): W




    race: turanoid
    height: 170,2
    length of the head: 187
    breadth of the head: 172
    breadth of the forehead: 118
    zygomatic width: 160
    morphological facial height: 116
    bigonial breadth: 118
    nasal height: 48
    nasal breadth: 35
    cephalic index: 91,98
    facial index: 72,5
    eye color (Martin-Schulz): 13
    hair color (Fischer-Saller): W




    race: turanoid
    height: 164,8
    length of the head: 179
    breadth of the head: 155
    breadth of the forehead: 116
    zygomatic width: 141
    morphological facial height: 113
    bigonial breadth: 115
    nasal height: 50
    nasal breadth: 33
    cephalic index: 86,11
    facial index: 80,14
    eye color (Martin-Schulz): 15
    hair color (Fischer-Saller): X




    race: turanoid
    height: 160,1
    length of the head: 177
    breadth of the head: 157
    breadth of the forehead: 116
    zygomatic width: 146
    morphological facial height: 103
    bigonial breadth: 110
    nasal height: 46
    nasal breadth: 35
    cephalic index: 88,7
    facial index: 70,55
    eye color (Martin-Schulz): 9
    hair color (Fischer-Saller): V




    race: turanoid
    height: 171,4
    length of the head: 191
    breadth of the head: 172
    breadth of the forehead: 121
    zygomatic width: 154
    morphological facial height: 115
    bigonial breadth: 120
    nasal height: 52
    nasal breadth: 36
    cephalic index: 90,05
    facial index: 74,68
    eye color (Martin-Schulz): 5
    hair color (Fischer-Saller): Y

    source: dr. Henkey Gyula: Segesdi magyarok etnikai embertani vizsgálata - Somogyi Múzeumok Közleményei, 1992

    A Turanid must have significant mongoloid admixture according to Pál Lipták. Your pictures of Hungarian look hardly to Turanid or diluted Turanid. Or maybe Turanid mixed with Slavs.

    I think real Turanids should look like these



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    Quote Originally Posted by ButlerKing View Post
    A Turanid must have significant mongoloid admixture according to Pál Lipták. Your pictures of Hungarian look hardly to Turanid or diluted Turanid. Or maybe Turanid mixed with Slavs.

    I think real Turanids should look like these
    The Turanid (as every mixed race) is a spectrum between two race. The two races are the Protoeuropid and the northern Mongoloid types.

    Anyway, Lipták was a great Hungarian anthropologist and the debate of the Turanid was about the statistical averages of the Turanid, basically between a statistical and a semiotical narrative, where the newschool "statisticals" would have done the border between the statistical averages, while the oldschool "semioticals" insisted on every visible character besides the metric stats. It was not possible to overcome the old school, since there are not Europids with few Mongoloid origin characters.

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    Turanid Tatars from Bulgaria (near Ruse):



    race: turanid
    height: 175,9
    length of the head: 189
    breadth of the head: 160
    breadth of the forehead: 112
    zygomatic width: 156
    morphological facial height: 134
    bigonial breadth: 115
    nasal height: 59
    nasal breadth: 38
    cephalic index: 84,66
    facial index: 58,9
    eye color (Martin-Schulz): 12
    hair color (Fischer-Saller): Y




    race: turanid
    height: 174,3
    length of the head: 192
    breadth of the head: 148
    breadth of the forehead: 106
    zygomatic width: 145
    morphological facial height: 122
    bigonial breadth: 123
    nasal height: 52
    nasal breadth: 37
    cephalic index: 77,08
    facial index: 84,14
    eye color (Martin-Schulz): 15
    hair color (Fischer-Saller): Y




    race: turanid
    height: 165,8
    length of the head: 183
    breadth of the head: 154
    breadth of the forehead: 117
    zygomatic width: 153
    morphological facial height: 136
    bigonial breadth: 117
    nasal height: 57
    nasal breadth: 37
    cephalic index: 84,15
    facial index: 88,89
    eye color (Martin-Schulz): 14
    hair color (Fischer-Saller): X




    race: turanid
    height: 166,1
    length of the head: 188
    breadth of the head: 167
    breadth of the forehead: 116
    zygomatic width: 157
    morphological facial height: 119
    bigonial breadth: 117
    nasal height: 54
    nasal breadth: 43
    cephalic index: 88,83
    facial index: 75,8
    eye color (Martin-Schulz): 10
    hair color (Fischer-Saller): Y




    race: turanid
    height: 160,2
    length of the head: 177
    breadth of the head: 150
    breadth of the forehead: 112
    zygomatic width: 142
    morphological facial height: 117
    bigonial breadth: 107
    nasal height: 53
    nasal breadth: 34
    cephalic index: 84,75
    facial index: 82,39
    eye color (Martin-Schulz): 13
    hair color (Fischer-Saller): Y




    race: turanid
    height: 167,2
    length of the head: 184
    breadth of the head: 158
    breadth of the forehead: 116
    zygomatic width: 149
    morphological facial height: 130
    bigonial breadth: 117
    nasal height: 54
    nasal breadth: 38
    cephalic index: 85,87
    facial index: 87,25
    eye color (Martin-Schulz): 10-11
    hair color (Fischer-Saller): T




    race: turanid
    height: 165,1
    length of the head: 200
    breadth of the head: 163
    breadth of the forehead: 116
    zygomatic width: 155
    morphological facial height: 125
    bigonial breadth: 114
    nasal height: 54
    nasal breadth: 37
    cephalic index: 81,5
    facial index: 80,65
    eye color (Martin-Schulz): 11
    hair color (Fischer-Saller): Y




    race: turanid
    height: 163,3
    length of the head: 179
    breadth of the head: 153
    breadth of the forehead: 112
    zygomatic width: 142
    morphological facial height: 116
    bigonial breadth: 110
    nasal height: 52
    nasal breadth: 34
    cephalic index: 85,47
    facial index: 81,69
    eye color (Martin-Schulz): 14
    hair color (Fischer-Saller): X




    race: turanid
    height: 165,2
    length of the head: 187
    breadth of the head: 163
    breadth of the forehead: 113
    zygomatic width: 149
    morphological facial height: 125
    bigonial breadth: 110
    nasal height: 54
    nasal breadth: 35
    cephalic index: 87,17
    facial index: 83,89
    eye color (Martin-Schulz): 8
    hair color (Fischer-Saller): Y




    race: turanid
    height: 156,8
    length of the head: 186
    breadth of the head: 155
    breadth of the forehead: 110
    zygomatic width: 140
    morphological facial height: 111
    bigonial breadth: 107
    nasal height: 53
    nasal breadth: 31
    cephalic index: 83,33
    facial index: 79,29
    eye color (Martin-Schulz): 13
    hair color (Fischer-Saller): Y




    race: turanid
    height: 167,8
    length of the head: 189
    breadth of the head: 161
    breadth of the forehead: 110
    zygomatic width: 150
    morphological facial height: 124
    bigonial breadth: 121
    nasal height: 56
    nasal breadth: 37
    cephalic index: 85,19
    facial index: 82,67
    eye color (Martin-Schulz): 13
    hair color (Fischer-Saller): Y




    race: turanid
    height: 154,2
    length of the head: 173
    breadth of the head: 152
    breadth of the forehead: 110
    zygomatic width: 137
    morphological facial height: 109
    bigonial breadth: 105
    nasal height: 50
    nasal breadth: 33
    cephalic index: 87,86
    facial index: 79,56
    eye color (Martin-Schulz): 15
    hair color (Fischer-Saller): X




    race: turanid
    height: 160,2
    length of the head: 179
    breadth of the head: 155
    breadth of the forehead: 112
    zygomatic width: 142
    morphological facial height: 113
    bigonial breadth: 112
    nasal height: 51
    nasal breadth: 33
    cephalic index: 86,59
    facial index: 79,58
    eye color (Martin-Schulz): 11
    hair color (Fischer-Saller): S




    race: turanid
    height: 177,8
    length of the head: 192
    breadth of the head: 163
    breadth of the forehead: 117
    zygomatic width: 149
    morphological facial height: 127
    bigonial breadth: 111
    nasal height: 56
    nasal breadth: 37
    cephalic index: 87,9
    facial index: 85,23
    eye color (Martin-Schulz): 15
    hair color (Fischer-Saller): Y

    source: dr. Henkey Gyula: Rusze környéki tatárok embertani vizsgálata - Anthropologica Hungarica, 1972

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    Quote Originally Posted by blogen View Post
    The Turanid (as every mixed race) is a spectrum between two race. The two races are the Protoeuropid and the northern Mongoloid types. Anyway, Lipták was a great Hungarian anthropologist and the debate of the Turanid was about the statistical averages of the Turanid, basically between a statistical and a semiotical narrative, where the newschool "statisticals" would have done the border between the statistical averages, while the oldschool "semioticals" insisted on every visible character besides the metric stats. It was not possible to overcome the old school, since there are not Europids with few Mongoloid origin characters.
    Only cumans Jews and slovaks have turanid features in Hungary. Genetics pointed out that there is no mongoloid admixture in Hungary. (Y.DNA mt.dNA and autosomal researches). So there is no genetic background behind your turanism. All central asian people have mongoloid haplogroups. Mongoloid haplogroups are represented in slavic speaking people and Northern germanic populations. So you can fuck ×××××× with your pseudo-scientific fantasy. I think you look like our "MR. gypsy teacher" in grammar school, who was not gypsy in the reality, he just came from cumania reserve area.

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    Turanoid Tatars from Bulgaria (near Ruse):



    race: turanoid
    height: 158,2
    length of the head: 176
    breadth of the head: 151
    breadth of the forehead: 115
    zygomatic width: 147
    morphological facial height: 114
    bigonial breadth:116
    nasal height: 50
    nasal breadth: 34
    cephalic index: 85,8
    facial index: 77,55
    eye color (Martin-Schulz): 11
    hair color (Fischer-Saller): X




    race: turanoid
    height: 163,2
    length of the head: 177
    breadth of the head: 156
    breadth of the forehead: 111
    zygomatic width: 146
    morphological facial height: 109
    bigonial breadth: 107
    nasal height: 50
    nasal breadth: 34
    cephalic index: 88,14
    facial index: 74,66
    eye color (Martin-Schulz): 8
    hair color (Fischer-Saller): U




    race: turanoid
    height: 161,3
    length of the head: 191
    breadth of the head: 163
    breadth of the forehead: 112
    zygomatic width: 146
    morphological facial height: 122
    bigonial breadth: 117
    nasal height: 52
    nasal breadth: 36
    cephalic index: 85,34
    facial index: 83,56
    eye color (Martin-Schulz): 5
    hair color (Fischer-Saller): Y




    race: turanoid
    height: 164,3
    length of the head: 177
    breadth of the head: 146
    breadth of the forehead: 111
    zygomatic width: 137
    morphological facial height: 114
    bigonial breadth: 107
    nasal height: 50
    nasal breadth: 32
    cephalic index: 82,49
    facial index: 83,21
    eye color (Martin-Schulz): 13
    hair color (Fischer-Saller): I




    race: turanoid
    height: 174,2
    length of the head: 191
    breadth of the head: 160
    breadth of the forehead: 113
    zygomatic width: 150
    morphological facial height: 123
    bigonial breadth: 117
    nasal height: 54
    nasal breadth: 38
    cephalic index: 83,77
    facial index: 82
    eye color (Martin-Schulz): 7
    hair color (Fischer-Saller): T




    race: turanoid
    height: 169,4
    length of the head: 192
    breadth of the head: 163
    breadth of the forehead: 115
    zygomatic width: 143
    morphological facial height: 119
    bigonial breadth: 110
    nasal height: 51
    nasal breadth: 35
    cephalic index: 84,9
    facial index: 83,22
    eye color (Martin-Schulz): 13
    hair color (Fischer-Saller): X




    race: turanoid
    height: 165,1
    length of the head: 191
    breadth of the head: 152
    breadth of the forehead: 107
    zygomatic width: 143
    morphological facial height: 123
    bigonial breadth: 110
    nasal height: 53
    nasal breadth: 35
    cephalic index: 79,58
    facial index: 86,01
    eye color (Martin-Schulz): 15
    hair color (Fischer-Saller): Y




    race: turanoid
    height: 151,8
    length of the head: 172
    breadth of the head: 147
    breadth of the forehead: 104
    zygomatic width: 133
    morphological facial height: 114
    bigonial breadth: 103
    nasal height: 50
    nasal breadth: 32
    cephalic index: 85,47
    facial index: 85,71
    eye color (Martin-Schulz): 14
    hair color (Fischer-Saller): X

    source: dr. Henkey Gyula: Rusze környéki tatárok embertani vizsgálata - Anthropologica Hungarica, 1972

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    Turanids and Turanoids from the lower Rába valley:

    Turanids:






    Turanoids:





    source: dr. Henkey Gyula: Rábaközi magyarok etnikai embertani képe - Arrabona, 1996

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    Cigány tanár'bá (blogen) itt vagy?

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    race: turanid
    height: 166,1
    length of the head: 187
    breadth of the head: 162
    breadth of the forehead: 117
    zygomatic width: 146
    morphological facial height: 117
    bigonial breadth: 119
    nasal height: 51
    nasal breadth: 38
    cephalic index: 86,63
    facial index: 80,14
    eye color (Martin-Schulz): 14
    hair color (Fischer-Saller): Y




    race: turanid
    height: 153,4
    length of the head: 189
    breadth of the head: 161
    breadth of the forehead: 110
    zygomatic width: 145
    morphological facial height: 105
    bigonial breadth: 110
    nasal height: 51
    nasal breadth: 35
    cephalic index: 85,19
    facial index: 72,41
    eye color (Martin-Schulz): 13
    hair color (Fischer-Saller): x




    race: turanid (andronovo)
    height: 170,1
    length of the head: 188
    breadth of the head: 167
    breadth of the forehead: 123
    zygomatic width: 162
    morphological facial height: 123
    bigonial breadth: 123
    nasal height: 51
    nasal breadth: 35
    cephalic index: 88,83
    facial index: 75,93
    eye color (Martin-Schulz): 13
    hair color (Fischer-Saller): W




    race: turanid
    height: 174,9
    length of the head: 189
    breadth of the head: 159
    breadth of the forehead: 117
    zygomatic width: 147
    morphological facial height: 109
    bigonial breadth: 115
    nasal height: 49
    nasal breadth: 38
    cephalic index: 84,13
    facial index: 74,15
    eye color (Martin-Schulz): 13
    hair color (Fischer-Saller): W




    race: turanid
    height: 159
    length of the head: 180
    breadth of the head: 161
    breadth of the forehead: 111
    zygomatic width: 141
    morphological facial height: 114
    bigonial breadth: 105
    nasal height: 52
    nasal breadth: 33
    cephalic index: 89,44
    facial index: 80,85
    eye color (Martin-Schulz): 13
    hair color (Fischer-Saller): W




    race: turanid
    height: 180,3
    length of the head: 192
    breadth of the head: 167
    breadth of the forehead: 123
    zygomatic width: 157
    morphological facial height: 125
    bigonial breadth: 120
    nasal height: 53
    nasal breadth: 34
    cephalic index: 86,98
    facial index: 79,62
    eye color (Martin-Schulz): 13
    hair color (Fischer-Saller): Y




    race: turanoid
    height: 179,2
    length of the head: 195
    breadth of the head: 167
    breadth of the forehead: 114
    zygomatic width: 147
    morphological facial height: 119
    bigonial breadth: 112
    nasal height: 51
    nasal breadth: 35
    cephalic index: 85,64
    facial index: 80,95
    eye color (Martin-Schulz): 13
    hair color (Fischer-Saller): Y




    race: turanoid
    height: 157,8
    length of the head: 181
    breadth of the head: 161
    breadth of the forehead: 111
    zygomatic width: 144
    morphological facial height: 103
    bigonial breadth: 105
    nasal height: 49
    nasal breadth: 33
    cephalic index: 88,95
    facial index: 71,53
    eye color (Martin-Schulz): 14
    hair color (Fischer-Saller): Y




    race: turanoid
    height: 177
    length of the head: 193
    breadth of the head: 161
    breadth of the forehead: 114
    zygomatic width: 145
    morphological facial height: 114
    bigonial breadth: 110
    nasal height: 53
    nasal breadth: 34
    cephalic index: 83,42
    facial index: 78,62
    eye color (Martin-Schulz): 14
    hair color (Fischer-Saller): Y




    race: turanoid
    height: 168,1
    length of the head: 179
    breadth of the head: 159
    breadth of the forehead: 117
    zygomatic width: 143
    morphological facial height: 114
    bigonial breadth: 108
    nasal height: 52
    nasal breadth: 32
    cephalic index: 88,83
    facial index: 79,92
    eye color (Martin-Schulz): 14
    hair color (Fischer-Saller): T



    race: turanoid
    height: 167,3
    length of the head: 190
    breadth of the head: 162
    breadth of the forehead: 118
    zygomatic width: 152
    morphological facial height: 124
    bigonial breadth: 118
    nasal height: 55
    nasal breadth: 33
    cephalic index: 85,26
    facial index: 81,58
    eye color (Martin-Schulz): 8
    hair color (Fischer-Saller): X




    race: turanoid
    height: 175
    length of the head: 186
    breadth of the head: 157
    breadth of the forehead: 116
    zygomatic width: 150
    morphological facial height: 113
    bigonial breadth: 109
    nasal height: 50
    nasal breadth: 33
    cephalic index: 84,41
    facial index: 75,33
    eye color (Martin-Schulz): 14
    hair color (Fischer-Saller): X

    source: dr. Henkey Gyula: Őseink nyomában - Budapest, 1993

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    Quote Originally Posted by Stears View Post
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    Turanids and Turanoids from Nagykörü:



    race: turanid
    height: 162,1
    length of the head: 179
    breadth of the head: 151
    breadth of the forehead: 111
    zygomatic width: 144
    morphological facial height: 110
    bigonial breadth: 112
    nasal height: 50
    nasal breadth: 34
    cephalic index: 84,36
    facial index: 76,39
    eye color (Martin-Schulz): 14
    hair color (Fischer-Saller): V




    race: turanoid
    height: 162,8
    length of the head: 184
    breadth of the head: 168
    breadth of the forehead: 116
    zygomatic width: 148
    morphological facial height: 111
    bigonial breadth: 113
    nasal height: 49
    nasal breadth: 36
    cephalic index: 91,3
    facial index: 75
    eye color (Martin-Schulz): 13
    hair color (Fischer-Saller): X




    race: turanoid
    height: 172,1
    length of the head: 191
    breadth of the head: 162
    breadth of the forehead: 116
    zygomatic width: 153
    morphological facial height: 122
    bigonial breadth: 115
    nasal height: 55
    nasal breadth: 37
    cephalic index: 84,82
    facial index: 79,74
    eye color (Martin-Schulz): 13
    hair color (Fischer-Saller): X

    source: dr. Henkey Gyula: Nagykörű népességének etnikai embertani vizsgálata - Cumania, 1992

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