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    Default Are Swiss germans and Swiss french are from same stock?

    We know that german part is german (alemannic) and french part is french, but I heard Swiss french are just romanized germanic Burgundians. What makes them related to eachother.

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    Oh, also Swiss italian speakers are from romanized germanic Lombards.

    So they are all related beside speaking totally different language.

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    All Swiss are. They just speak different languages.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Sikeliot View Post
    All Swiss are. They just speak different languages.
    Germanic was their original, right? Cause those all alemannes, burgundians, lombards.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Visitor_22 View Post
    Germanic was their original, right? Cause those all alemannes, burgundians, lombards.
    Germanic doesn't seem like an important element I'd imagine, genetically, by the time you reach the Swiss neck of the woods (or even south Germany) regardless of the linguistics. Aboriginal (or perhaps Etruscan derived!?) alpine Rhateans seem what's up.
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    Swiss have deep roots in alps. Most people in it are not really ehnically swiss but the true alpignids have highly related mtdna from lichtenstein cave that's 5k+ years old. They are not german or french.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Melonhead View Post
    Swiss have deep roots in alps. Most people in it are not really ehnically swiss but the true alpignids have highly related mtdna from lichtenstein cave that's 5k+ years old. They are not german or french.
    Yep. But Alemanni, Lombards, Burgundians were all germanic people. Not anything else, even they mixed with others.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Sikeliot View Post
    All Swiss are. They just speak different languages.
    Please stick to talk about Southern European countries and Near East, because that's just not right. Most Swiss Germans are of the Alemannic stock which have origins in Germanic tribes and, to a latter degree, in remaining Celtic tribes.

    Romandie (French Swiss) has mainly Romance roots.


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    Strange: Italian part of Switzerland speak Lombard version of italian, when French part speak Burgundian version of french.

    As we know Lombards and burgundians were romanized germanic people.

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    Burgundians came in relatively small numbers, and their power didn't last. The Romance speakers spoke Latin before the Burgundians came, and still did after they lost significance.
    On the Burgundians, if you read French, Italian or German : http://www.hls-dhs-dss.ch/textes/f/F8028.php

    Allemanic Swiss were obviously more heavily settled, as (like they did in Alsace, or like in Bavaria and Austria with the Bavarians) their language changed altogether. They most likely still have roughly the same stock as the other Alpines in my opinion.

    The Alamans were the first German tribe (as opposed to the Wisigoths and Burgundians, Germanic but from a rather distant branch) the Franks fought heads on after getting independent from Rome, and that's were the Germans still get their name from in many Romance languages.

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