Are Swiss germans and Swiss french are from same stock?

[Ayetooey]

They don't really that's true

[RenaRyuguu]

Yes I relate to Koreans idk why

[Ayetooey]

Swiss are barely 40% Germanic by Y dna; even England is significantly more Germanic. Swiss have a lot of proto celtic lineages, aka R1b-U152 and G2a-L497.

[RenaRyuguu]

Swiss are barely 40% Germanic by Y dna; even England is significantly more Germanic. Swiss have a lot of proto celtic lineages, aka R1b-U152 and G2a-L497.

Interesting

[Daco Celtic]

Seems to be a difference according to G25. Swiss French is more south shifted.

Distance to: Swiss_French
0.01321153 French_Auvergne
0.01479124 French_Provence
0.01768132 French_Occitanie
0.01828836 Spanish_Penedes
0.01946763 Italian_Aosta_Valley
0.01963710 Spanish_Girona
0.02063327 Swiss_German

Distance to: Swiss_German
0.01071618 French_Nord
0.01132038 French_Alsace
0.01414769 Belgian
0.01542296 French_Paris
0.01822109 French_Occitanie
0.01883475 French_Auvergne
0.02063327 Swiss_French

[Samnium]

Seems to be a difference according to G25. Swiss French is more south shifted.

Distance to: Swiss_French
0.01321153 French_Auvergne
0.01479124 French_Provence
0.01768132 French_Occitanie
0.01828836 Spanish_Penedes
0.01946763 Italian_Aosta_Valley
0.01963710 Spanish_Girona
0.02063327 Swiss_German

Distance to: Swiss_German
0.01071618 French_Nord
0.01132038 French_Alsace
0.01414769 Belgian
0.01542296 French_Paris
0.01822109 French_Occitanie
0.01883475 French_Auvergne
0.02063327 Swiss_French

Don't know if that sample is really representative.

I had found a Swiss French on Gedmatch that was very near Austrian averages (not Central France at all).

[Daco Celtic]

Don't know if that sample is really representative.

I had found a Swiss French on Gedmatch that was very near Austrian averages (not Central France at all).

Wouldn't you say Swiss French are a tad more south shifted? Maybe G25 exaggerates the difference but they sure seem to make a distinction between Swiss French, German, and Italian.

[Samnium]

Wouldn't you say Swiss French are a tad more south shifted? Maybe G25 exaggerates the difference but they sure seem to make a distinction between Swiss French, German, and Italian.

Swiss Italian reference is also quite weird. Plot with Liguria instead with Lombardy.

Romandy is also a very large region, there are parts of it that share borders with "Alemanic" cantons.

It doesn't make sense that Swiss French would be like Southern French genetically, given the geographic position and historical reasons (germanic admixture notably), surely a bit more southern shifted than Swiss Germans, but still close. Here this sample is coser to a spanish region before Swiss German average.

On other "PCA" or with other samples, Swiss French are far from being Southern French like.