Classify/Passify my Maltese grandparents

**gakki** · 08-07-2021, 01:39 PM

I have already posted my grandparents over a year ago however now I have better pictures (with color too) and I am asking you to classify too not just passing them.

I will also upload my Vahadou Eurogenes K13 results. I am 100% Maltese.

So far I have been told (by foreign friends and people on this forum) that my first grandpa could pass in North Italy, France and Switzerland. My first grandma that she could pass in Balkans and Turkey. My second grandpa that he could pass in some places of West Asia (apart from Sicily) and my second grandma looks pan-Southern European. That's what people have told me so far.

Thanks!

**Jana** · 11-09-2021, 07:54 PM

Grandma1- Alpine/Paleo-Sardinian
Grandma2- Atlanto Med
Grandpa1- Alpine Med
Grandpa2 - Dinaro Med

They look completely average European and pass in south and west of Europe. Only grandpa 2 is somewhat eastern shifted.

Could you please post your K13 admixture proportions? I want to add you to TA user database and compare with other results.

**reboun** · 11-09-2021, 07:57 PM

They look like regular Italians.

**gakki** · 11-09-2021, 11:42 PM

Originally Posted by Stearsolina

Grandma1- Alpine/Paleo-Sardinian
Grandma2- Atlanto Med
Grandpa1- Alpine Med
Grandpa2 - Dinaro Med

They look completely average European and pass in south and west of Europe. Only grandpa 2 is somewhat eastern shifted.

Could you please post your K13 admixture proportions? I want to add you to TA user database and compare with other results.

Do you think Grandpa 2 could pass in Greece? If so, in which part?

I will post my K13 admixture proportions soon

**gakki** · 11-09-2021, 11:45 PM

Originally Posted by aruncaz

They look like regular Italians.

Makes sense since the biggest chunk of Maltese DNA comes from Sicilian (and other Italian, Southern European) immigrants between 11th century and the mid 1800s. That being said, we still owe some of our ancestry to the 'original' Maltese.

Where do you think they would fit apart from Italy?

**Sloots** · 11-09-2021, 11:58 PM

Originally Posted by gakki

Makes sense since the biggest chunk of Maltese DNA comes from Sicilian (and other Italian, Southern European) immigrants between 11th century and the mid 1800s. That being said, we still owe some of our ancestry to the 'original' Maltese.

Where do you think they would fit apart from Italy?

Agree with Stearsolina
Anywhere in Europe except Scandinavia!

**reboun** · 11-10-2021, 07:04 AM

Originally Posted by gakki

Makes sense since the biggest chunk of Maltese DNA comes from Sicilian (and other Italian, Southern European) immigrants between 11th century and the mid 1800s. That being said, we still owe some of our ancestry to the 'original' Maltese.

Where do you think they would fit apart from Italy?

I guess they can pass in Spain, Portugal, France and Balkans too.

**gakki** · 11-10-2021, 10:47 AM

Any other answers?

**gakki** · 11-10-2021, 05:37 PM

Originally Posted by Sloots

Agree with Stearsolina
Anywhere in Europe except Scandinavia!

Even Grandpa 2? I think he would fit in Italy, Greece and some other places of Southern Europe but I don' think he would fit very well in Central Europe, for example.

What do you think?

**TheMaestro** · 11-10-2021, 07:06 PM

Alll of them seem to be in terms of looks shifted towards Europe.

1st would guess around ITALY/GREECE radius, imo could pass in LATAM too.
2nd I would guess from central Europe from first two photos, last two - probably southern Europe? Wouldn't be able to pinpoint.
3. N/A
4th is passable in most of Europe imo, would probably guess French.