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    Quote Originally Posted by blogen View Post
    The presumably PIE homleand is an area what was not connected directly with the fertile crescent's civilization (there are no Sumerian or other very early Mesopotamian loanwords in the PIE vocalbulary), but not too distant from these region, since they presumably played a role in the expansion of the neolithic revolution.
    The location of the PIE homeland is under debate. However, you are right the "Caucasian/Anatolian" and the "Eastern European" are the most accepted urheimat theories. I think archaeologists prefer the Anatolian theory.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Fakirbakir View Post
    The location of the PIE homeland is under debate. However, you are right the "Caucasian/Anatolian" and the "Eastern European" are the most accepted urheimat theories. I think archaeologists prefer the Anatolian theory.
    And these are the additional important viewpoints:

    - not possible to Indoeuropaize the continent from the steppe, since the Kurgan inluence had a western limit in the Danube-Vistula line. A very early Indo-European population with a Balkan or Carpathian basin origin and an Iranian popualtion with steppic origin had to exist. Their origin debatable, but their presence in the Neolithic were unambiguous.
    - the terminology of the agriculture differ in the Indo-Iranian and the Old-European languages, identical PIE words mean something else often, so the Old-European and Indo-Iranian neolitization was different.
    - the Indo-Iranian folk have early loanwords in the Uralic languages only, so the early Old-Europeans were not adjacent with the Uralics but the Indo-Iranians were direct neighbours.
    - The megalith builders, the Cardial peoples (ancestors of the Basques?) and the Erteblle peoples (proto-Lapps?) were certainly not Indo-Europeans. The substratums of the western and northern areas were connected to them. But the Balkan Neolithic cannot be connected to the Cardial folk, only in the Adrian coast.

    So there are not many margins.

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    Quote Originally Posted by blogen View Post
    The presumably PIE homleand is an area what was not connected directly with the fertile crescent's civilization (there are no Sumerian or other very early Mesopotamian loanwords in the PIE vocalbulary), but not too distant from these region, since they presumably played a role in the expansion of the neolithic revolution. These region is proper onto this:




    The BMAC was the continuation of the Jeitun tradition. The Jeitun culture was under very strong southern influence, but this is missing from the Iranian language. However, there is a very strong strange substrate in the Iranian languages and presumably this is the heritage of the BMAC peoples. And this is correlated with the archaeological datas, that two waves of the Andronovan and post-Andronovan conquest happened on the BMAC area before the Aryan conquest of India.

    So basically the BMAC and the Iranians were two different story before the Iranian assimilated the BMAC peoples.



    The proto-Turks lived from east of the Altay, presumably the Slab Grave culture was the Turkic homeland. Later, they conquered everything in Central Asia and Western Siberia.
    LOL welcome to the club!
    Where is the aryan homeland?
    Many theories, zero evidence!


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    Quote Originally Posted by blogen View Post
    The presumably PIE homleand is an area what was not connected directly with the fertile crescent's civilization (there are no Sumerian or other very early Mesopotamian loanwords in the PIE vocalbulary), but not too distant from these region, since they presumably played a role in the expansion of the neolithic revolution. These region is proper onto this:




    The BMAC was the continuation of the Jeitun tradition. The Jeitun culture was under very strong southern influence, but this is missing from the Iranian language. However, there is a very strong strange substrate in the Iranian languages and presumably this is the heritage of the BMAC peoples. And this is correlated with the archaeological datas, that two waves of the Andronovan and post-Andronovan conquest happened on the BMAC area before the Aryan conquest of India.

    So basically the BMAC and the Iranians were two different story before the Iranian assimilated the BMAC peoples.



    The proto-Turks lived from east of the Altay, presumably the Slab Grave culture was the Turkic homeland. Later, they conquered everything in Central Asia and Western Siberia.
    you posted Hungarian past!

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    Quote Originally Posted by SKYNET View Post
    evidence is 0

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    Quote Originally Posted by blogen View Post
    No. But we (proto-Magyars of the Cherkaskul culture) and Indo-Iranian tribes (proto-Scythians and Sarmatians) established the horse-nomadic lifestyle in the early Iron age.
    Sarmatians and Scythians were Hungarians, persians were Iranians.

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    Quote Originally Posted by DerekMorlock View Post
    you posted Hungarian past!
    Another SabirHunOgur troll...

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    the troll is Stears,but he has nice sister!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Velaxa View Post
    Yes, and the magyars founded the fire and invented the wheel.
    the fire Sun religion just XD How is your world cup? Magyars trolled it?

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