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    Quote Originally Posted by Krivich View Post
    I support friendship between Russians and Ukrainians. This is our brotherly people, although Ukrainians do not recognize it today.
    It's not that Ukrainians don't recognize it. Rather, it's quite difficult for such "brotherhood" to mean very much while Russia conducts a war of aggression against Ukraine.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Wanderer View Post
    It's not that Ukrainians don't recognize it. Rather, it's quite difficult for such "brotherhood" to mean very much while Russia conducts a war of aggression against Ukraine.
    The fact is that 90% of people believe in promoting their TVs. Ukraine started a war, or rather the Ukrainian government, where there are no ethnic Ukrainians.

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    Neither.

    I would say Russia for the reason they try to counter NATO and because Crimea was Russian before but we are pretty much disconnected from that part of the world and siding with any side would be stupid.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Wanderer View Post
    Very interesting to encounter Ukrainian-American pro-Russians. Most people acquire a sense of ethnic identity from their relatives - e.g., immediate family, extended family. All the Ukrainian-Americans I know are staunchly pro-Ukrainian. But, alternatively, I suppose some people may instead read some things on the internet or somewhere, and decide their real identity is or should be Russian.
    Not only that, but he's a Catholic originally from Western Ukraine. Very interesting to see such a unique view out here. Then again, he may or may not be who he says he is.

    It is most unfortunate to see Ukrainians today putting the Tatars on a pedestal, and jointly crying over 1944 with them, when the Tatars were brutal enemies of both Ukrainians and Russians. Tatars captured and sold millions of Ukrainians and Russians into slavery. Finally, Russians (along with Ukrainians) dismantled the Crimea Khanate and decimated the Tatars. Today, the Tatars are one of those whiny "indigenous peoples" in Ukraine that the Ukrainian establishment and Ukrainian liberals are all too eager to kiss the asses of.
    Why should people be blamed today for what their ancestors did? Should White Americans be blamed for slavery? Do White South Africans deserve what they're getting for colonization? What the Tatars did in a completely different era doesn't mean they should be treated with contempt today. They should be treated equally to other citizens of their country.

    If the Tatars deserve sympathy for any wrongdoings against them, then they deserve sympathy. If they don't deserve sympathy, then they don't. What they did centuries ago is irrelevant to how they should be treated today.

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    Quote Originally Posted by SKYNET View Post
    choose one of the two options
    I am against Nato , so I am whit Russia in this case..

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    I like both peoples but do not like the nazi pro western anti russian elite in Ukraine who is in power therefore I support Russians
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    I'm quite confused as it goes for Ukraine. Do Ukrainians really want own country? Or only people who live in the Western part of Ukraine feel to be Ukrainians and the rest wants to be part of Russia or have an own state.

    I have never met an Ukrainian who was proud of own origin. From all of them I got an impression they were ashamed of being Ukrainians... in the CzR plenty of immigrants from Ukraine live... despite they still can't speak Czech they are able to say "I am not an Ukrainian I am a Czech"... wtf.

    So is here anyone who can explain me what Ukrainians want? I support neither Ukraine nor Russia I support will of Ukrainians... and I hope that to follow their will could stop their immigration madness. I want them to stay in Ukraine.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Magnolia View Post
    I'm quite confused as it goes for Ukraine. Do Ukrainians really want own country? Or only people who live in the Western part of Ukraine feel to be Ukrainians and the rest wants to be part of Russia or have an own state.

    I have never met an Ukrainian who was proud of own origin. From all of them I got an impression they were ashamed of being Ukrainians... in the CzR plenty of immigrants from Ukraine live... despite they still can't speak Czech they are able to say "I am not an Ukrainian I am a Czech"... wtf.

    So is here anyone who can explain me what Ukrainians want? I support neither Ukraine nor Russia I support will of Ukrainians... and I hope that to follow their will could stop their immigration madness. I want them to stay in Ukraine.
    I don't know what your personal vendetta is against Ukraine, but I know Ukrainians who are extremely proud of being Ukrainian, to the point of being annoying.

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