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Thread: Muslim students go insane in campus showing anti-Islamic amateur film in Sweden

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    Quote Originally Posted by Also View Post
    I don't get that too. They scream "allahu akbar" even when they are murdering other people.
    I am a muslim myself , but when your pathetic ass does something bad , you don't need to claim to do it in the name of god. I hope people who do such things rot in hell

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    Quote Originally Posted by Also View Post
    I don't get that too. They scream "allahu akbar" even when they are murdering other people.
    Because God is greater.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Also View Post
    These disgusting Muslim people always react and act the same. They are not equal to us. They are below us. In ethics, morals and intellect.

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    They has right. The muslims the good guys here, if the Swedishs would defend their values on this level like this then there would not be Muslims in Sweden. But there are no Swedish values today. The only vaule in Sweden is the Islam.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Sikeliot View Post
    I respect others' religious beliefs, but I have a hard time grasping how people can honestly believe some of the teachings of their religions. To me it seems far-fetched. I personally can't believe in things that I can't see material evidence of here on Earth, but to each his or her own. Nevertheless I have studied Islam extensively and I know that at its core, it is very similar to Christianity and Judaism, and that the high amount of religious extremism within Islam today could have easily happened in any major religion if the conditions were right.
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    The violence in the Quran is prescriptive rather than descriptive, and the commands that incite violence in Quran are standing commands that are valid for all places and times. The Bible is nothing like that. Christians have no Biblical justification for using Violence in the name of Christ. Christ chose to be crucified rather than to slay his enemies. He taugh his followers to spread the Gospel not through physical confrontation, but through the peaceful proclamation of the saving grace of God.

    Christianity turned the Roman world upside down during the first three centuries by the sheer power of the grace of God manifested in the loving and forgiving attitudes of Christians, who were willing to suffer and die for their faith. By contrast, Islam conquered much of the Roman world during the first century of its expansion by slaughtering a countless number of innocent people and forcing their faith upon the survivors. Christ condemned the use of violence to promote the Christian faith, while Muhammad commanded the use of the sword to advance the cause of Islam.

    A most compelling proof that Muhammad taught his followers to advance the cause of Allah by the use of the sword, is provided by the example of his immediate successors, known as Califs. They followed his intense fanaticism in waging relentless wars of conquests against Christians, Jews, and pagans. In a relatively short time they carved an enormous empire for themselves.

    Christianity is inspired by its founder, Jesus Christ, who did not force people to submit to anything.
    To say that Islam is a religion of peace, means to ignore the example and teachings of Muhammad. Christ taught to "Love your enemies and pray for those who persecute you, so that you may be sons of your Father who is in heaven; for he makes his sun rise on the evil and the good" (Matt 5:44-45).

    Christ is called "The Prince of bod" (Is 9:6), because he offers us Peace with God by bearing the penalty of our sins, Peace by ourselves by offering us the power to overcome sin in our life, and Peace with people by granting us the capacity to love even those who hate us.

    The peace that Christ offers is not territorial, but internal. It is achieved not by making the whole world Muslim through territorial expansion, but by experiencing the restful assurance of divine forgiveness, protection, and salvation. It is an internal peace that enables us to live in a trouble world without letting our hearts be troubled or afraid. Ultimately, this is the peace that every human being needs. The is the peace that can help Muslims to live at peace with God, themselves, and others.

    Muslims who use violence, warfare, and terrorism to advance the cause of Allah, can legitimately claim to be following the example and teachings of their prophet, Muhammad. He was both a religious and political leader who fought until he subdued the people of Mecca and the Christian and Jewish communities living in Saudi Arabia. He taught: "Know that Paradise is under the shades of swords." (4:73 )

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    Quote Originally Posted by Sikeliot View Post
    I understand, but this is what I want to know: how brainwashed must one be if they could react that way due to a perceived (or even real) attack against their religion? Why do people care so much about religion which can neither be empirically proven or verified? Why does it have this much power over people, and why don't people see this as a problem?
    Muslims react that way because they are following the perfect examples of the "perfect" man Muhammad. When a man mocked Muhammad in Mecca and wrote derogatory verses about him, Muhammad ordered him to be executed. "But who will look after my children, O Muhammad?" Uqba cried with anguish. "Hell," retorted the prophet coldly. Then the sword of one of his followers cut through Uqba’s neck.

    Asma bint Marwan was a poetess who belonged to a tribe of Medinan pagans, and whose husband was named Yazid b. Zayd. She composed a poem blaming the Medinan pagans for obeying a stranger (Muhammad) and for not taking the initiative to attack him by surprise. Perhaps in March 624, when the Allah-inspired prophet heard what she had said, he asked, "Who will rid me of Marwan’s daughter?" A member of her husband’s tribe volunteered and crept into her house that night. She had five children, and the youngest was sleeping at her breast. The assassin gently removed the child, drew his sword, and plunged it into her, killing her in her sleep.

    Everyone knows that Jesus did not engage in violence and retaliation

    52 "Put your sword back in its place," Jesus said to him [Peter], for all who draw the sword will die by the sword."

    36 Jesus said, "My kingdom is not of this world. If it were, my servants would fight to prevent my arrest by the Jews. But now my kingdom is from another place."

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    Yes the film was clearly inappropriate and was intended to offend, however they should have just got up and left, the reaction was also inappropriate.

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    I think I heard "Allahu gaybar" around 5 times.

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    At least in Sweden Lars Vilks can produce these things and not be arrested or prosecuted, unlike in some other countries.

    If he doesn't watch out he is going to end up dead like Theo van Gogh.

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    Muslims; Making everyone hate them one day at a time.
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