Why doesn't the Soviet Union attract the same stigma that Nazi Germany rightly does?

[Tooting Carmen]

When it is pointed out that the Soviet Union was even more murderous and tyrannical - and certainly a lot more corrupt and incompetent - than Nazi Germany, many people respond that "Communism was good in principle, whereas Nazism wasn't".

Putting to one side all the lofty rhetoric, Communism mostly revolved around four things, all of which (except maybe the last) had the seeds of despotism and violence sowed within them:

(1) Class hatred, of a kind that was just as bigoted and fanatical as the racial hatreds that characterised Nazism.

(2) A belief in an all-encompassing, extremely powerful and interventionist State.

(3) Disrespect towards private property and the individual.

(4) A flawed belief in economic equality, where everybody ought to earn roughly the same regardless of talent, hard work, intelligence or qualifications.

At this point, I hasten to add that I am very much a social democrat, and I deplore the excesses, greed and exploitation of the so-called "free-market". Nevertheless, the manifest failings of Communism - both in principle AND in practice - should be evident for any right-minded individual to see.

[Dombra]

Inb4 Loki or RP hating on this thread

[SobieskisavedEurope]

Because the media & academia are usually left wing or Jewish & both want to minimize or even deny their crimes of their ilk in the Soviet Union.

[Prisoner Of Ice]

Because they have infiltrated the west.

[Tooting Carmen]

Because the media & academia are usually left wing or Jewish & both want to minimize or even deny their crimes of their ilk in the Soviet Union.

I cannot speak for other countries, but in the UK at least, most of the media is (a) right-wing and (b) most definitely NOT Jewish-owned, even if there are quite a few Jewish journalists around. So the answer has to be more profound and complex than that.

[Teyrn]

Winners write the history books.

[Tooting Carmen]

Winners right the history books.

That's the point though - the Soviets won World War II but lost the Cold War; even so, despite full public knowledge of their crimes, they still don't seem to inspire the same revulsion that the Nazis do.

[Prisoner Of Ice]

I cannot speak for other countries, but in the UK at least, most of the media is (a) right-wing and (b) most definitely NOT Jewish-owned, even if there are quite a few Jewish journalists around. So the answer has to be more profound and complex than that.

It's not right wing any more than bill or reilly is right wing, it's owned by rich british people who have zero loyalty to common people of UK.

[Tooting Carmen]

It's not right wing any more than bill or reilly is right wing, it's owned by rich british people who have zero loyalty to common people of UK.

The part in bold I do agree with.

[Sikeliot]

Because the Soviets murdered their own, the Nazis targeted others.