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    Asian gets death for adultery in Abu Dhabi
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    Published Sunday, May 04, 2014

    An Abu Dhabi criminal court sentenced an Asian housemaid to stoning to death after she was found guilty of committing adultery while married.

    The maid had been rushed to hospital following abdominal pains and tests showed she was pregnant after sleeping with another man.

    Newspapers said the maid confessed in court that she committed adultery and the judge handed down the sentence on the basis of her confession in line with Islamic law.

    It was the first time in many years that a person was sentenced to stoning to death in such a case in the UAE. Judicial sources said the maid can appeal the sentence.

    http://www.emirates247.com/news/emir...05-04-1.547869
    The advocates of stoning in Abu Dhabi can and do claim that they are simply implementing Islamic law. The caliph Umar, one of Muhammad’s closest companions, maintained that the punishment of stoning for adultery (this story doesn’t specify the method of punishment, but the outcome of the punishment is the same in any case) was originally in the Qur’an:

    ‘Umar said, “I am afraid that after a long time has passed, people may say, “We do not find the Verses of the Rajam (stoning to death) in the Holy Book,” and consequently they may go astray by leaving an obligation that Allah has revealed. Lo! I confirm that the penalty of Rajam be inflicted on him who commits illegal sexual intercourse, if he is already married and the crime is proved by witnesses or pregnancy or confession.” Sufyan added, “I have memorized this narration in this way.” ‘Umar added, “Surely Allah’s Apostle carried out the penalty of Rajam, and so did we after him.” (Bukhari, vol. 8, bk. 82, no. 816)

    “Allah’s Apostle” is, of course, Muhammad, who did indeed carry out stonings. Here is the hadith in which he challenges the rabbis about stoning, and in which there is amidst the barbarism and brutality a final act of love and compassion:

    The Jews came to Allah’s Apostle and told him that a man and a woman from amongst them had committed illegal sexual intercourse. Allah’s Apostle said to them, “What do you find in the Torah (old Testament) about the legal punishment of Ar-Rajm (stoning)?” They replied, (But) we announce their crime and lash them.” Abdullah bin Salam said, “You are telling a lie; Torah contains the order of Rajm.” They brought and opened the Torah and one of them solaced his hand on the Verse of Rajm and read the verses preceding and following it. Abdullah bin Salam said to him, “Lift your hand.” When he lifted his hand, the Verse of Rajm was written there. They said, “Muhammad has told the truth; the Torah has the Verse of Rajm. The Prophet then gave the order that both of them should be stoned to death. (‘Abdullah bin ‘Umar said, “I saw the man leaning over the woman to shelter her from the stones.” (Bukhari, vol. 4, bk. 56, no. 829)

    Even the monkeys practiced stoning, according to another hadith:

    During the pre-lslamic period of ignorance I saw a she-monkey surrounded by a number of monkeys. They were all stoning it, because it had committed illegal sexual intercourse. I too, stoned it along with them. (Bukhari, vol. 5, bk. 58, no. 188)

    Muhammad’s example is, of course, normative for Islamic behavior, since “verily in the messenger of Allah ye have a good example for him who looketh unto Allah and the Last Day, and remembereth Allah much” (Qur’an 33:21).

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    The monkeys still practice stoning, it seems.
    Out Of Africa Theory is a lie.
    http://www.theapricity.com/forum/sho...88#post3431588
    And a mighty angel took up a stone like a great millstone, and cast it into the sea, saying, Thus with violence shall that great city Babylon be thrown down, and shall be found no more at all.

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    For some people, Abu Dhabi is the more famous as having the owners of Manchester City

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    Jesus said those who accused the woman caught in the act of adultery, “let him who is without sin cast the first stone”.

    …. and when the first stone hitted the women, Jesus said:‘ mother, you can be very annoying sometimes!’...

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    Stoning-to-death is never recommended in the Quran as a punishment for any crime.

    It was a Jewish practice which found its way into Muslims' practice centuries after the Quran,


    The Old Testament instructs a stoning to death penalty for various sins and crimes, including witchcraft; blasphemy, violating the Sabbath, and murder:

    "Again, thou shall say to the children of Israel, Whosoever he be of the children of Israel, or of the strangers that sojourn in Israel, that gives any of his seed unto Molech; he shall surely be put to death: the people of the land shall stone him with stones" (Leviticus 20:2).

    "A man also or woman that hath a familiar spirit, or that is a wizard, shall surely be put to death: they shall stone them with stones: their blood shall be upon them" (Leviticus t="on">20:27).

    "And he that blasphemes the name of the LORD, he shall surely be put to death, and all the congregation shall certainly stone him: as well the stranger, as he that is born in the land, when he blasphemes the name of the LORD, shall be put to death (Leviticus 24:16).�

    "And the LORD said unto Moses, The man shall be surely put to death: all the congregation shall stone him with stones without the camp (Numbers t="on">15:35).�

    "And if he smite him with throwing a stone, wherewith he may die, and he die, he is a murderer: the murderer shall surely be put to death (Numbers 35:17).�

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    And this is what happens when you leave Islamists out of sight:

    Stoned to death... why Europe is starting to lose its faith in Islam

    DAYS before she was due to be married, Ghofrane Haddaoui, 23, refused the advances of a teenage boy and paid with her life. Lured to waste ground near her home in Marseilles, the Tunisian-born Frenchwoman was stoned to death, her skull smashed by rocks hurled by at least two young men, according to police.

    Although the circumstances of the murder are not clear, the horrific “lapidation” of the young Muslim stoked a French belief that the country can no longer tolerate the excesses of an alien culture in its midst.
    http://www.thetimes.co.uk/tto/news/w...cle1974930.ece

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    Quote Originally Posted by Siberian Cold Breeze View Post

    The Old Testament instructs a stoning to death penalty for various sins and crimes, including witchcraft; blasphemy, violating the Sabbath, and murder:

    "Again, thou shall say to the children of Israel, Whosoever he be of the children of Israel, or of the strangers that sojourn in Israel, that gives any of his seed unto Molech; he shall surely be put to death: the people of the land shall stone him with stones" (Leviticus 20:
    Muslims make the mistake of comparing the customs of Ancient jews (that lived 3000 years ago) to modern man. Muhammad claimed that Islam was an improvement on Christianity. The question needs to be asked: Should this punishment of stoning exist in the first place six hundred years after Christ showed us the better way?

    The laws found in Torah are not divine. The Torah was part and parcel of its culture. Moreover, it should be pointed out that even the Old Testament itself is silent on the actual carrying out of the punishment of stoning adulterers.

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    For Christians, Jesus’ interpretation of these laws is final. He takes away their sharp sting with his death on the cross and by his sinless life and divine love.

    Muhammad completely misses the mark when we compare his harsh and excessive policies with those of Jesus and his early church, who offer holiness from the inside out, not impose it from the outside. Muhammad is a deformer, not a reformer, of the earlier religion (and Judaism).

    Of course, Jesus emphatically says that adultery is sin, but it is no longer crime as the Torah implies by its stern punishments and as Islamic sharia would like to revive. Again, Jesus fulfills the punishment aspect of the old law. He also shows a new path in dealing with these sins in two ways. This clear and better path goes to the human heart, the root of the sin.

    First, Jesus zeros in on the root cause of adultery. In the famous Sermon on the Mount he says this about adultery and lust (Matt. 5:27-28):

    5:27 "You have heard that it was said, ‘Do not commit adultery.’ 28 But I tell you that anyone who looks at a woman lustfully has already committed adultery with her in his heart."

    Immediately, this raises the stakes so high that all corporeal punishment is removed; otherwise, all of humanity would kill each other with legalized stoning. These two verses say that sexual sin is no longer a civil crime or any kind of crime. As usual with Jesus, he goes to the heart of the sin. Adultery and other sexual sins begin in the mind, so the solution to them must also begin in the mind.

    Muhammad, on the other hand, believes in imposing sexual holiness from the outside of a person’s mind by flogging and stoning. But this has never worked throughout human history because sexual sin is too deeply entrenched in human nature. Moreover, as we saw in the section "Confusion in Islamic law," Muhammad’s harsh punishments do not bring healing to a family and subsequently to society, but they tear the family and society apart.

    Also, it is only logical that such punishments would drive the sin underground; indeed, according to reliable hadiths that Maududi cites, Muhammad encouraged his early followers to keep their sins or "crimes" a secret. This is no long-lasting solution, either.

    Second, Jesus goes beyond pointing out the spiritual root cause, and offers a spiritual solution, which is clarified in the Gospel of John 8:1-11. This passage says that some religious leaders, wanting to trap Jesus between his message of love and forgiveness and his respect for the Torah, brought a woman caught in adultery and made her stand in their midst. They reminded Jesus that the law of Moses orders that she should be stoned. He stooped down and wrote in the dirt, contemplating. They kept questioning him, perhaps stones in hand. What would he do? He then spoke the famous lines: "He who is without sin should throw the first stone" (v. 7).

    One by one, from the oldest to the youngest, the accusers left. The spiritual solution is forgiveness without condemnation. Jesus never intended to reinstitute the punishment of stoning sinners, or even their flogging, as Muhammad would like to reinstitute an old-new law. Jesus intended to rise above such shallow solutions.

    In no place does the New Testament endorse flogging or stoning sinners. Rather, Jesus and his New Testament authors seek to help and heal the sinner, not condemn him as a criminal.

    Muhammad’s sharia imposes its own version of holiness from the outside onto the populace, and this is not good. People must be allowed to choose holiness freely and voluntarily and without harassment if they take another path.

    On the other hand, when masses of individuals in western societies (Christianity and western civilization are not identical) finally allow the Holy Spirit to cleanse them from the inside out, then society can make external improvements naturally and gladly. Christians preach the gospel of good news to get people to join their cause and allow the Spirit into their lives, one soul at a time. They do not and cannot impose the sovereign Spirit on to people. And they certainly do not hit them with whips and stones. Christianity seeks to improve society by spiritual means, by seeing the heart change.

    Does the Quran guide society better than the New Testament does? Should this message supercede the New Testament?

    Jesus ushured the world into a new era. Jesus Christ came with good news and the love of God. Muhammad came with flogging fornicators and stoning adulterers. Christianity advances society forward. Absorbing an old law in a haphazard way, Islam drags society backwards.

    Jesus forgives and restores. Muhammad flogged and stoned.

    Christians call themselves children of God and Muslims slaves of God. I personally prefer the Christian notion as it give them a closer and more loving relationship with their god. Why would god need slaves? This gives the impression that we humans are doing something for him. Is he benefiting from our service? In that case he is exploiting us for his own use. Muhammad was a very primitive man. When he said you are Allah’s slaves he meant you are his slaves. Muhammad was a very controlling man and Allah was the alter ego.
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    I wasn't referring to Bible ..I think you are evading a little bit

    so you are totally cool with old testament ? (source of both religious practises )

    The laws found in Torah are not divine. The Torah was part and parcel of its culture. Moreover, it should be pointed out that even the Old Testament itself is silent on the actual carrying out of the punishment of stoning adulterers.
    you remind me these weird ultra religious Muslim people
    they also try to find an excuse even at the sight of a sheer fact and still defend their "words"
    ..that must be common to all devout believers .


    Turks don't call themselves slave of God .Actually "Allah baba" is used a lot among Turkish Muslims .
    We didn't live side by side with muslims of other countries that's why our concepts are different..for example most Turks don't fancy a afterlife with 4 women , they practically be ashamed of thinking of about sex and heaven (something sacred) together . Rather they will say I ll meet with my late loved ones , or historical or religious personalities , and heaven for them is more like prairies or gardens in the sky.
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    Those were the laws of Ancient Jews millenias ago. But the Jews have evolved since then. They revised their archaic laws to adapt into this changing World.

    Quran claims to be a book of guidance in which there is no doubt and admits no error. The Bible is NOT a law book. The 'Law' of Christians is Christ (God is love) and nothing else. It is not a written code that one defines by rules and regulations. It is the application of God’s living law of love that affects every area of our lives.

    The purpose of the Law was to show us what sin is and to lead us to Christ.

    One of the most popular verses being in Romans 6:14 ..... 'For sin shall not have dominion over you: for ye are not under the law, but under grace.'

    Galatians 5:1 says, “Stand fast therefore in the liberty wherewith Christ hath made us free, and be not entangled again with the yoke of bondage.”The law is the yoke of bondage.

    Paul contrasts law and grace. If we are under the law, we are in bondage. So under the new covenant Christians serve in a "new way", the way of the Spirit.

    The old covenant was a temporary system designed to act as a guardian for the nation Israel until the Messiah came (Galatians 3:19). Humanity’s relationship to God is no longer regulated by a written law code on tables of stone or in a book, as it was for ancient Israel. It is now based on faith in Jesus Christ (verses 22–24). "Now that faith has come, we are no longer under the supervision of the law" (verse 25).

    "Christ is the end of the law" (Romans 10:4) The Mosaic Law was God’s law for the nation of Israel under the old covenant. The "law of Christ" is God’s law for Christians in the New Testament era. The two are not the same.

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