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    Quote Originally Posted by Marmara View Post
    I wonder if there are any Sandzakis with N1b.
    There's N found between 3-5% in certain Serb pops and Bosnians but it isn't a Turkic clade, it's an independent branch and is meant to be very old in the region.



    It's called N2-Y6503 and AFAIK it's not found anywhere else in the world.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Gedza View Post
    Pomaks call themselves Balkan Turks even if they are Bulgarians but ok... I don't care.

    Sandzakians who don't consider themselves Bosniaks are fools.
    Greece Pomaks call themselves Balkan Turks
    Bulgarian Pomaks call themselves Bulgarians


    But they are Pomaks..
    Code:
    50% Turk_Kardzhali-South-Plain + 50% Pomak_Xanthi @ 3,771
    50% Turk_Komotini + 50% Pomak_Xanthi @ 3,918
    50% Turk_Targovishte + 50% Pomak_Xanthi @ 5,497
    50% Turk_Kardzhali-South-Plain + 50% Pomak_Plovdiv @ 5,634
    
    Y-DNA: Q-M346 -> Q-L54 -> Q-L330. Provadia, Bulgaria.
    mtDNA: K1a19. Kirkovo, Bulgaria.
    Paternal mtDNA: H5a1. Komotini, Greece.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Gold-Shekel View Post
    Most of those people have a population of like 60.000 people, that's not substainable. Gorani will become Serbs eventually. At this point you're comparing tribes to Nations.

    A bit of religious persecution on Pomaks and Torbesh will make them Turkish...
    Pomak population is more than 1m. Official number is about 650.000 but most of them identify themselves as Turkish so 650.000 is not very reliable to say.

    "A bit of religious persecution on Pomaks and Torbesh will make them Turkish..."

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    50% Turk_Kardzhali-South-Plain + 50% Pomak_Xanthi @ 3,771
    50% Turk_Komotini + 50% Pomak_Xanthi @ 3,918
    50% Turk_Targovishte + 50% Pomak_Xanthi @ 5,497
    50% Turk_Kardzhali-South-Plain + 50% Pomak_Plovdiv @ 5,634
    
    Y-DNA: Q-M346 -> Q-L54 -> Q-L330. Provadia, Bulgaria.
    mtDNA: K1a19. Kirkovo, Bulgaria.
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    About topic:

    I don't think there are Turkish blood in Bosnia...


    Also Muslim from Sandzak:


    Admix Results (sorted):

    # Population Percent
    1 Baltic 26.96
    2 North_Atlantic 23.97
    3 West_Med 18.86
    4 East_Med 17.28
    5 West_Asian 9.43
    6 Red_Sea 2.09
    7 Siberian 0.76
    8 Amerindian 0.65

    Single Population Sharing:

    # Population (source) Distance
    1 Romanian 3.29
    2 Serbian 4.27
    3 Bulgarian 4.71
    4 Moldavian 9.17
    5 Croatian 11.7
    6 Hungarian 11.93
    7 Greek_Thessaly 12.88
    8 Austrian 14.77
    9 East_German 16.37
    10 North_Italian 16.46
    11 Tuscan 17.25
    12 Ukrainian_Lviv 18.24
    13 South_Polish 18.99
    14 West_German 19.23
    15 Italian_Abruzzo 19.33
    16 Ukrainian 19.41
    17 French 19.58
    18 Central_Greek 19.99
    19 West_Sicilian 20.49
    20 South_Dutch 20.66

    Mixed Mode Population Sharing:

    # Primary Population (source) Secondary Population (source) Distance
    1 52.5% Croatian + 47.5% Greek_Thessaly @ 2
    2 67.7% Croatian + 32.3% South_Italian @ 2.22
    3 59.8% Greek_Thessaly + 40.2% South_Polish @ 2.33
    4 60.3% Greek_Thessaly + 39.7% Ukrainian @ 2.34
    5 73.8% Bulgarian + 26.2% Croatian @ 2.37
    6 63.9% Greek_Thessaly + 36.1% Polish @ 2.41
    7 63.4% Croatian + 36.6% Central_Greek @ 2.42
    8 55.6% Ukrainian + 44.4% South_Italian @ 2.44
    9 80.2% Bulgarian + 19.8% East_German @ 2.47
    10 51.4% Ukrainian + 48.6% West_Sicilian @ 2.51
    11 64% Croatian + 36% West_Sicilian @ 2.55
    12 87.2% Bulgarian + 12.8% Southwest_Finnish @ 2.56
    13 53.7% Serbian + 46.3% Bulgarian @ 2.59
    14 85% Romanian + 15% Croatian @ 2.6
    15 85.1% Bulgarian + 14.9% Polish @ 2.6
    16 82.8% Bulgarian + 17.2% South_Polish @ 2.62
    17 64.8% Croatian + 35.2% East_Sicilian @ 2.62
    18 90.6% Romanian + 9.4% Ukrainian @ 2.62
    19 83.1% Bulgarian + 16.9% Ukrainian @ 2.63
    20 58.9% Greek_Thessaly + 41.1% Ukrainian_Lviv @ 2.64
    Code:
    50% Turk_Kardzhali-South-Plain + 50% Pomak_Xanthi @ 3,771
    50% Turk_Komotini + 50% Pomak_Xanthi @ 3,918
    50% Turk_Targovishte + 50% Pomak_Xanthi @ 5,497
    50% Turk_Kardzhali-South-Plain + 50% Pomak_Plovdiv @ 5,634
    
    Y-DNA: Q-M346 -> Q-L54 -> Q-L330. Provadia, Bulgaria.
    mtDNA: K1a19. Kirkovo, Bulgaria.
    Paternal mtDNA: H5a1. Komotini, Greece.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Gold-Shekel View Post
    Most of those people have a population of like 60.000 people, that's not substainable. Gorani will become Serbs eventually. At this point you're comparing tribes to Nations.

    A bit of religious persecution on Pomaks and Torbesh will make them Turkish...
    Gold, Goranci prior to being partially Albanianised and islamified during 18/19th centuries were Orthodox Christian Serbs, they even to this day know of their Serbian Slava!

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    Close to 0% imo.

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    0%.

    And most of the Ottomans in Bosnia/Serbia even back in the late middle ages were just Muslim Serbs which had nothing to do with Turkey genetically.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ayetooey View Post
    0%.

    And most of the Ottomans in Bosnia/Serbia even back in the late middle ages were just Muslim Serbs which had nothing to do with Turkey genetically.
    Probably among Cazinska Krajina muslims there is little Anatolian blood. There are some exotic haplogroup in small % in Cazinska Krajina muslims. Even one autosomal result indicates this.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Pribislav View Post
    Probably among Cazinska Krajina muslims there is little Anatolian blood. There are some exotic haplogroup in small % in Cazinska Krajina muslims. Even one autosomal result indicates on this.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Mortimer View Post
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