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    Default Hungary genocide 1940-1944 against romanians and jews.



    Well, lets talk about the hungarians civillians crimes against romanians, lets talk about their hate for us, not about Horty.
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    Band Grebeniş, Oroiu, September 1944

    Soon after Romania signed an armistice with the Allies, local ethnic Hungarian armed guards in collaboration with the Hungarian Piquette Band commune in Mureş County, attacked by surprise Romanian border, killing Sergeant Predescu. Dozens of Romanian village Mărăşeşti were taken from their homes and imprisoned handcuffed in a cellar, households making it also vandalized.

    Crossing the border then the same gang robbed Grebeniş village, shooting three locals and raising Romanians apucaseră not to flee. Taking them to the border Hungarians gave him kiss and thank milestones they reached the holy territory of Hungary. Two other Romanian village Oroiu were then beaten and then killed.

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    And what is there with the slaughtered Hungarian POWs and civilans? The killings, turture and mass rape of the fascist Maniu guard in 1944 for example!

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    Quote Originally Posted by blogen View Post
    And what is there with the slaughtered Hungarian POWs and civilans? The killings, turture and mass rape of the fascist Maniu guard in 1944 for example!
    "Just three days after entering the Hungarian army of occupation, began a series of massacres against civilians Romanian. They had a high intensity in the first two weeks of the annexation of the territory. In just 11 days they were murdered about 1,000 Romanian."

    I dont know what are you talking about...

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    Revolution broke out in December 1989 and Harghita and Covasna in character and anti -Ceausescu and was attended equally , Romanian , Hungarian and Székely .

    Later her main goals were interpreted by some as an event exclusively Hungarian and starts the process of marginalization of the Romanians living in the area. Since the early days of the outbreak of revolution in the two counties have committed attacks on police headquarters and security are totally or partially destroyed 38 of them ...


    The first of which Szecklers Hungarians have shed anger were militiamen and security officers who , although not responded by using its weapons were molested humiliated , killed the bestial . Were burned houses were burned or goods they possessed them - were stolen , these things happen in 200 residences frames militia and security .... Continued aggressive actions two three days after the beginning of the revolution , especially in rural areas , looking for teaching Romanian nationality in the former organs of power and order ...
    Sometimes the motivation of replacing people with management was explained , as happened in Covasna County Court : "Maintaining the function of those concerned - the chairman of the tribunal, the chief prosecutor (emphasis n.) - no longer justified , whereas as the county has become Seckler . This explanation , recorded in official documents , is the clearest evidence of anti-Romanian actions that took place during those moments at several locations in the two counties ....

    Should be stressed that this part of the country reacting bodies defending the old political system - militia and security - was completely passive until now fibrils is even a case to use firearms against the population. After running radio and television announced dictator in central squares of cities - Miercurea Ciuc , Udvarhely , St. George , Gheorghieni Topliţa - spontaneous gatherings took place during which speeches were held in Romanian and Hungarian were destroyed dictator portraits and propaganda materials from the county party headquarters offices . There were spontaneous manifestations of public joy to be rid of oppression and suffering, Romanian and Hungarian Székely being together in those unforgettable moments . This was the first phase of the revolutionary moment , when there were no ethnic conflict situations , people eagerly watching what was happening in Bucharest , Timisoara , Sibiu, Brasov , Craiova , Braila , where they were shooting in the streets, where hundreds died people.
    This situation occurred in the counties of Harghita and Covasna where outside attack on a military unit of St. George on the night of 24 to December 25 by unidentified persons , there was no firearms . In fact , police and security organs received unambiguous order not to use weapons against the population. It was closed in facilities or military units to be delivered safely. In small towns in the two counties - communities and villages - people gathered in the first moments in front of City Hall , destroying the symbols of the communist dictatorship .

    In the second phase of the events of those days attacks have become a destructive , devastating , being oriented offices or premises security police stations , although in those places there was no reaction to what happened. Actions were initiated following calls unidentified persons who by amplification stations in urban centers - have urged people to commit acts of vandalism without having a revolutionary coating . For example, in Miercurea Ciuc , shortly after meeting people in the market , the station amplification have made ​​repeated calls for the purposes of going to security headquarters . What followed did not have any contact with the revolutionary events . On the afternoon of December 22 were destroyed 35 police stations in the county of Harghita and Covasna county 3 . Participants in these events - and Székely Hungarian majority - have devastated everything they came across : radios , televisions , telephones, clothing , archives, file cabinets with various objects. In many cases , after the buildings were burned to remove any trace . At Udvarhely , Gheorghieni , Miercurea Ciuc, Ciumani Zetea chapel , Secuieni BRADESTI etc . traces of these actions have been preserved for months ....

    Unfortunately, the devastating actions have not stopped here , the participants began to behave with the staff of militia and security - mostly Romanian . Thus, in the counties of Harghita and Covasna were killed 7 people, 6 being active and reserve personnel of the former police and security bodies - four Romanian and Hungarian March . Two Hungarians were killed for trying to defend their Romanian colleagues were considered traitors Székely and Magyars . Those killed - Lieutenant Colonel Dumitru Coman , head of security in Udvarhely Székely , Liviu Theophilus Cheuchişan sergeant major , police chief Dealu militia , Major Agache to Aurel Kézdivásárhely militia , sergeant Dănăilă Gabi aid Zetea commune police chief , sergeant major Ferencz Emeric , sectorist militia Cristuru Székely , sergeant Dănăilă Gabi Zetea common post aid chief , sergeant major Emeric Ferencz , sectorist militia Cristuru Székely , Gabriel Szekely retired sergeant did not use at any time armament .

    Murders were WAY BESTIAL , accompanied by all sorts of insults to Romania.
    The Major Aurel Agache of Kézdivásárhely was actually lynched those gathered , then the body is still spit and hit those who pass by, the eyelids i have put a coin and logo on helmet and a mouth rats. Finally we tried to be on fire burning evenly . On 22.XII.1989 after demonstrators set "order" in the village Dealu , a group of individuals who are intoxicated Udvarhely Székely arrived in the city , attacked the police station , they killed Sergeant Alan Cheuchişan Theophilus the bestial , trying to flay him with a fork and set fire to the body. This action took place in the presence of his wife and two small children. This action has witnessed almost the entire population of the village , but no one intervened to defend the bullied . It even had a gun on him all the time , never used . Only the next day afternoon high body could be found in the garden of the house, naked and covered with bark. Wife and two children were rescued by a Székely , which in 22.00 . passed through the fire made ​​into housing by bullies .
    These events have nothing Revolution DECEMBER constitute serious crimes , punishable ANY STATE LAW . ...

    Chapter III

    The character of the street demonstrations that occurred after December 22, 1989 .
    Those who were on the streets in various cities , communes and villages in the counties of Harghita and Covasna incite shouted slogans like " Death Vlachs ", " Horty , Horty ," " Long live Hungary ", " Transylvania to Hungary ," " Now or never . " In places like Cristuru - Székely , Gheorghieni Baraolt Kézdivásárhely and such actions have reached climax . These actions were further violence in the two counties , committed during attack on police headquarters and security of bestial crimes and resulted in significant damage. Another significant element ... demonstrate that street manifestations were anti-Romanian character is that Romanian flags were torn and thrown away in several towns in the two counties - the Kézdivásárhely this was the very first moments of the revolution .

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    Quote Originally Posted by Velaxa View Post
    "Just three days after entering the Hungarian army of occupation, began a series of massacres against civilians Romanian. They had a high intensity in the first two weeks of the annexation of the territory. In just 11 days they were murdered about 1,000 Romanian."
    I dont know what are you talking about...
    Bad propaganda. These were the total number of the Romanian victims of the incidents: 699 Romanian. Smaller part of the victims were victim of revenge, they were mostly soldiers, the Romanian army looted before the evacuation, some Romanian solder and officer was not enough fast and the robbed Hungarians captured and lynched them. But their majority were the victim of an ethnic clash. The victims' majority died because of the army's trespass. Iron guardsman persons and units offered sporadic resistance against the Hungarian liberators. Romanian civilians committed the attacks against the Hungarian soldiers, since the Romanian army left behind many military weapons between the reliable Romanian civilans. The soldiers were not prepared for the operations like this (now we called COIN, counter-insurgency) and they took revenge on the civil population because of the atrocities against the military. This was usual in all fronts of the wwII. The major sites:

    Ipp/Ip: 157 civilian victim, a Romanian fired at the Hungarian soldiers, the civilians were the victims of the retribution. Only a machine gun was found.

    Szilágycseres/Cerișa and Felsőkaznacs/Cosniciu: 55 civilian victim after Romanians shot onto the soldiers on the neighbourhood with more occasions.

    Ördögkút/Treznea: 68 victims after armed Romanians killed more Hungarian soldiers with machine gun fire.

    source: Illésfalvi Péter: Az 1940-es erdélyi bevonulás során történt atrocitásokról - Pro Minoritate, 2004

    The nature of the Romanian atrocities against the Hungarians was different. Romanian volunteers fascists corps committed these mass atrocities mostly in 1944.

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    http://www.reuters.com/article/2011/...7333EJ20110404

    I recent event has underscored Romania's Iron Guard Nazis Party past. Please consider the following:

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    I think romanian fascism chauvinism was generated by the Orthodox church.

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