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    Personally I’m one with Tolkien that English global status is something to lament not celebrate:

    Col. Knox says 1/8 of the world’s population speaks English and that it is the biggest language group. If true, damn shame-say I. May the curse of Babel strike all their tongues till they can only say baa baa. It would mean much the same, I think I shall have to refuse to speak anything but Old Mercian.

    England’s global “success” is also a cause of our continued fall as a nation, I can walk along any street in my home town and hear English people who sound as if they have just stepped off the set of a bad American sit-com or have just been evicted from Queen’s. The French think their identity is under threat? Good Gods they should stop navel gazing, their old enemy is further along the road toward extinction than they are.

    The French may well laugh last and hardest, but perhaps not for very long.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Wulfhere View Post
    We shouldn't forget though that half of English vocabulary (though definitely not the everyday vocabulary of normal folk) is French. So we're just giving them a taste of their own medicine. One of English's greatest strengths, unlike French, is its willingness to absorb new words.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Wulfhere View Post
    So that's why they speak German there, rather than English, yes?
    No, the Germans are the dominant ethnic group in the USA, not the English. I remember in the other post you made, you called USA a race traitor state who turned back on the Crown in 1776. Why the change of heart?


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    Quote Originally Posted by Liffrea View Post
    Personally I’m one with Tolkien that English global status is something to lament not celebrate:

    Col. Knox says 1/8 of the world’s population speaks English and that it is the biggest language group. If true, damn shame-say I. May the curse of Babel strike all their tongues till they can only say baa baa. It would mean much the same, I think I shall have to refuse to speak anything but Old Mercian.

    England’s global “success” is also a cause of our continued fall as a nation, I can walk along any street in my home town and hear English people who sound as if they have just stepped off the set of a bad American sit-com or have just been evicted from Queen’s. The French think their identity is under threat? Good Gods they should stop navel gazing, their old enemy is further along the road toward extinction than they are.

    The French may well laugh last and hardest, but perhaps not for very long.
    Tolkien was wrong, I think. Only the English speak English properly, but at least we don't have to bother learning a load of foreign languages if we want to go abroad. I am proud of the fact that I don't speak any other language, though this doesn't stop me being interested in linguistics.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Cail View Post
    Normal folk, eh?
    Yes, 90% of everyday language is from Anglo-Saxon.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Vojn View Post
    No, the Germans are the dominant ethnic group in the USA, not the English. I remember in the other post you made, you called USA a race traitor state who turned back on the Crown in 1776. Why the change of heart?
    I didn't put it quite as strongly, though I do think they were seriously misguided, and led by corrupt, self-interested politicians.

    If you look at the Wikipedia article - http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/English_people - it makes the point that English ethnicity in the USA is very seriously under-represented by official statistics because most people there with English ethnicity tend to write "American" rather than "English" on forms. This is because they're the dominant group.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Wulfhere View Post
    Yes, 90% of everyday language is from Anglo-Saxon.
    I've just highlighted French/Latin words in your post. Or lets take another one for example:

    It may be different in Sweden, but here, whenever our imperial history is mentioned, it is always British, and never English. The term "English imperialism" is used exclusively by people such as the Irish, Scots etc. and is always pejorative (and usally quite ill-informed, too).

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    Quote Originally Posted by Cail View Post
    I've just highlighted French/Latin words in your post. Or lets take another one for example:
    I made no claim to be using everyday language in my posts. Indeed, writing often contains words and constructions not normally used in speech - otherwise it looks illiterate. The technical term is register.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Wulfhere View Post
    I made no claim to be using everyday language in my posts. Indeed, writing often contains words and constructions not normally used in speech - otherwise it looks illiterate. The technical term is register.
    Actually, the situation is same on all levels. Unless you're a dock worker or smth.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Cail View Post
    Actually, the situation is same on all levels. Unless you're a dock worker or smth.
    An interesting exercise is to compare the vocabulary of the early Beatles songs with their later ones.

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