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    Damn this is one cray controversial topic, and my guess is probably not, I reckon the greeks hated their turkish rulers during that period that bearing their children would be considered the greatest shame.

    Besides, Greece is southernmost in the Balkans, isn't it natural for them to be darker in pigmentation to other southern europeans?

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    Many greeks i have seen with surnames that end with oglu plus there was a good muslim population in greece .Plus we must consider the number of greek girls mated with turkish soldiers.
    What do you think.

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    It's that Turks have Greek genes and influence, not the other way around.

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    Quote Originally Posted by alexkid View Post
    Besides, Greece is southernmost in the Balkans, isn't it natural for them to be darker in pigmentation to other southern europeans?
    Greeks are the same in pigmentation as other southern Europeans. And possibly not as dark as some of them.

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    Quote Originally Posted by gültekin View Post
    so and what about the fucking claim of Greeks,: "Barbarian Turks had raped us, Turks had assimilating us etc." after 400 years and all that had to no more Greeks be alive
    You probably have not reached the sex education level required to understand that humans are not like cats when it comes to a penis entering a vagina. Women don't get pregnant instantly... And since it did occur, but mostly in the late years of Ottoman conquest, I'm not sure whether the pregnant women kept the babies. I doubt they did. Maybe their fathers/husbands killed them as well in some cases, we can't tell.


    Quote Originally Posted by xhondoe View Post
    Many greeks i have seen with surnames that end with oglu plus there was a good muslim population in greece .Plus we must consider the number of greek girls mated with turkish soldiers.
    What do you think.
    I think you're a dumb troll. If you were smart, replying to you could have been a challenge, but you're not so it's more like a hassle...

    The -oglou surname in Greece does not mean much. It might mean that it's a Greek (or Greek speaking Christian) who lived in Anatolia or just someone who opted to use -oglou instead of -idis or -poulos or -ou or whatever just because he thought it was trendier.
    And Greek girls did not mate with Turkish soldiers. Raped perhaps, but not that common during the 400 years or so. The only documentation of pregnant Greek girls from Turks has the result of the offspring being sent to the city of Byzantium(you know it as Istanbul) to become Ottoman Turks.

    Muslim population of Greece was either Islamized Greeks, other Islamized Balkan people(Albanians mostly) and Ottoman settlers/soldiers [most of whom left in the early 19th century]. So any Turkish blood in Greeks must be from the forgotten Ottoman settlers of the 15th and 16th centuries, which I doubt is influential in our genetic pool.

    Anything else you want to invent before you go to bed?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Sikeliot View Post
    Greeks are the same in pigmentation as other southern Europeans. And possibly not as dark as some of them.
    I just go by geography, more southern = more sun and more of a tan. My opinion is pretty uneducated on these matters though + I've seen plenty of Greeks here who look as light as I do because they're in rainy old London where it's impossible to get the tan Greeks normally do in Greece.

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    Quote Originally Posted by alexkid View Post
    I just go by geography, more southern = more sun and more of a tan. My opinion is pretty uneducated on these matters though + I've seen plenty of Greeks here who look as light as I do because they're in rainy old London where it's impossible to get the tan Greeks normally do in Greece.
    Again nearly all the "Greeks" in London are Cypriots, and Cypriots are genetically Levantine, not Greek.

    The southernmost parts of Greece, Spain, and southern Italy are all roughly equal in latitude:


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    I don't know about Turkish but they seem to have negriod influence.

    This 5000 year old photograph found in the ancient ruins of lesbos depicts Hercules as a Black man.

    What do you guys think?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Vias View Post
    You probably have not reached the sex education level required to understand that humans are not like cats when it comes to a penis entering a vagina. Women don't get pregnant instantly... And since it did occur, but mostly in the late years of Ottoman conquest, I'm not sure whether the pregnant women kept the babies. I doubt they did. Maybe their fathers/husbands killed them as well in some cases, we can't tell.
    ahaha funny ,that's not the answer for my question , but, Greeks must check their own sex knowledge immediately, you have to learn how to make child,
    ==> http://greece.greekreporter.com/2012...s-census-data/
    if not, we can teach you

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    I think population mix in medieval countries .Greeks were under ottoman empire.Many children were taken by ottomans and education in Istanbul.Inter ethnic marriages were normal at that time .Could Greeks stop turiksh man from marrying a Greek girl .By the way the so called greek did not call themselves greek at that time.
    According to wiki
    The Ottomans, on the other hand, had a larger force. Recent studies and Ottoman archival data point out that there were about 50,000-80,000 Ottoman soldiers including between 5,000 and 10,000 Janissaries,[2][13][14] an elite infantry corps, and thousands of Christian troops, notably 1,500 Serbian cavalry that the Serbian lord Đurađ Branković supplied as part of his obligation to the Ottoman sultan. So we have greek soldiers and serbian that fought to take istambul.

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